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08-02-2025, 12:34 AM
#141

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He had some issues as well. Got caught plagiarizing like 4 times. The swept the first two times under the rug.....which by the way.....was an underrated quality of Dan's. Yea we had some guys get in trouble or get arrested during his tenure but a lot of stuff got swept under the rug. Heck Nick James should've gotten a DUI every weekend he was here but Mullen literally just had the cops follow him home from the bars every night.
And then there was the Pita Pit incident......IYKYK.
Yeah- I'm sure that definitely went both ways with Dan and Brown for sure.
If you are coaching at MSU you definitely have to get in good with the Starkville police department.
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08-02-2025, 03:00 PM
#142
Going to be the worst HS class we've signed in years.
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08-02-2025, 04:36 PM
#143

Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
Going to be the worst HS class we've signed in years.
Probably a mix but is it due to this staff can?t recruit? We aren?t putting forth the funds necessary to recruit well? Kids don?t want to play for 2-10? Other reasons?
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08-02-2025, 09:56 PM
#144

Originally Posted by
DawgFromOxford
Probably a mix but is it due to this staff can?t recruit? We aren?t putting forth the funds necessary to recruit well? Kids don?t want to play for 2-10? Other reasons?
Kids don’t want to play for two and ten. The kids who will play for us are doing it for money. They’ll also just leave when they’re offered more. Going to have to win a year or two with some mercs and then get some local kids to buy in.
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08-03-2025, 02:07 AM
#145

Originally Posted by
DawgFromOxford
Probably a mix but is it due to this staff can?t recruit? We aren?t putting forth the funds necessary to recruit well? Kids don?t want to play for 2-10? Other reasons?
It seems like the offensive staff is doing much better than the defensive staff right now. I just can't see the defensive staff hanging around much longer without significant changes.
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08-03-2025, 01:29 PM
#146

Originally Posted by
Brobi-wan
Kids don’t want to play for two and ten. The kids who will play for us are doing it for money. They’ll also just leave when they’re offered more. Going to have to win a year or two with some mercs and then get some local kids to buy in.
Still #44 with 27 commits and an unranked JUCO WR. I just counted 16 more name teams that have a higher average ranking per committed player and spots to fill that could easily pass this class. Some on here have said that HS recruiting is not important anymore with the portal. Here are my two questions: !. Would you take many of the HS recruits on the 43 teams ranked ahead of us right now? 2. Can you process some players and beat the teams ranked ahead of us with their processed players? This class looks like a major disappoint that will get worse before signing day unless we win some games in '25 and look good and exciting in the losses. A couple of 5 or 6 wins need to be in SEC games also. JMO.
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08-03-2025, 08:08 PM
#147

Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Still #44 with 27 commits and an unranked JUCO WR. I just counted 16 more name teams that have a higher average ranking per committed player and spots to fill that could easily pass this class. Some on here have said that HS recruiting is not important anymore with the portal. Here are my two questions: !. Would you take many of the HS recruits on the 43 teams ranked ahead of us right now? 2. Can you process some players and beat the teams ranked ahead of us with their processed players? This class looks like a major disappoint that will get worse before signing day unless we win some games in '25 and look good and exciting in the losses. A couple of 5 or 6 wins need to be in SEC games also. JMO.
You’re right. High school is less important. It hasn’t reached unimportance. I think we’ll be okay long term…IF we win in the next couple of years. We need 2 SEC wins.
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08-03-2025, 11:06 PM
#148

Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Still #44 with 27 commits and an unranked JUCO WR. I just counted 16 more name teams that have a higher average ranking per committed player and spots to fill that could easily pass this class. Some on here have said that HS recruiting is not important anymore with the portal. Here are my two questions: !. Would you take many of the HS recruits on the 43 teams ranked ahead of us right now? 2. Can you process some players and beat the teams ranked ahead of us with their processed players? This class looks like a major disappoint that will get worse before signing day unless we win some games in '25 and look good and exciting in the losses. A couple of 5 or 6 wins need to be in SEC games also. JMO.
It also looks a lot like Dan Mullen's typical class. You have a couple of studs like JJ Hill and then you have a bunch of diamonds in the rough like Nickerson.
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08-04-2025, 08:02 AM
#149

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
It also looks a lot like Dan Mullen's typical class. You have a couple of studs like JJ Hill and then you have a bunch of diamonds in the rough like Nickerson.
I think the issue that most have is the word "bunch" that you use. You have a couple, like Nickerson, but most of these guys are not those "raw" athletes that Mullen would recruit and develop...a LOT of these guys have neither the production nor the physical attributes that could lead to the hope that they'll develop into productive SEC players!
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08-04-2025, 12:04 PM
#150

Originally Posted by
Tripp McNeely
I think the issue that most have is the word "bunch" that you use. You have a couple, like Nickerson, but most of these guys are not those "raw" athletes that Mullen would recruit and develop...a LOT of these guys have neither the production nor the physical attributes that could lead to the hope that they'll develop into productive SEC players!
This class could easily end up ranked in the mid 50's. To date, there is not a single 4 star. As much as Dan hated recruiting, did he ever have a HS class ranked this poorly? Having a few "diamonds in the rough" is fine and we have developed some NFL players from these type MS players in the past. Check the offer sheets of the majority of these commits, it is very concerning. Hard to recruit to 2-10, 0-8 with a bunch of unknown coaches with an OTJ training HC (again) and an OTJ training DC. We must win our share in 2025 and look good in the losses. Only way to change this. Time will quickly tell.
Last edited by Goldendawg; 08-04-2025 at 12:07 PM.
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08-05-2025, 08:14 PM
#151

Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
This class could easily end up ranked in the mid 50's. To date, there is not a single 4 star. As much as Dan hated recruiting, did he ever have a HS class ranked this poorly? Having a few "diamonds in the rough" is fine and we have developed some NFL players from these type MS players in the past. Check the offer sheets of the majority of these commits, it is very concerning. Hard to recruit to 2-10, 0-8 with a bunch of unknown coaches with an OTJ training HC (again) and an OTJ training DC. We must win our share in 2025 and look good in the losses. Only way to change this. Time will quickly tell.
The rankings are not entirely on the coaches. Our only 4 star got bumped down after he committed. And the best RB in the state is committed to us and has been completely ignored by the recruiting services. I dont expect this to ever change now. They are showing you they're ****ing you is what it boils down to.
Last edited by Bothrops; 08-05-2025 at 08:16 PM.
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