Arizona St Game

[Goldendawg]

This 100%., regarding our "D" couldn't get off the field last year BTW: just got an email on ticket availability from Premium Seating to even $40 tickets in the MSU Section at "The Rock". Also, tickets for the AZ State home opener are available starting at less than $25. Wow, how much lower until we hit rock bottom and I don't mean at "The RocK", hopefully, or our somewhat wobbly wheels will come off!

[parabrave]

Yep. They return 17 starters, including their qb is who Big 12 preseason player of the year.

But the player who killed us is gone. The defense was the problem espically the dam line

[Coach34]

But the player who killed us is gone. The defense was the problem espically the dam line

I promise- they will have another RB thats fairly solid. They are a Top 20 football team. Would be a great win if we can pull off the upset

[99jc]

I promise- they will have another RB thats fairly solid. They are a Top 20 football team. Would be a great win if we can pull off the upset

We will beat them put money on it! We only lost by 7 there last year and we are better!

[parabrave]

We will beat them put money on it! We only lost by 7 there last year and we are better!

Only if the DL learned how to get in the O Backfield and how to tackle.

[Coach34]

We will beat them put money on it! We only lost by 7 there last year and we are better!

They have 17 starters returning and we are plugging in a bunch of new guys. We may win and I fing hope we do. But I just cant put money on us before watching us vs the Nasty Bunch

[1eyedog]

JMHO....The DOGS should beat these type teams. Even the great Georgia teams historically the DOGS could play with, they traditionally don?t score a lot of points bur play off their defense and running game. Bama for some reason have a mental image......as well as that school over there most years. I truly hope Coach L has an incredible turn around.......as I said before.....I really would LOVE to see the DOGS on a big time saturday night game to go along with a Tiger Stadium game....go ?DOGS? !!!!

[TrapGame]

They have 17 starters returning and we are plugging in a bunch of new guys. We may win and I fing hope we do. But I just cant put money on us before watching us vs the Nasty Bunch

But we are plugging in better talent than last year. We lost that game in Tempe by a touchdown. One dropped sure TD pass and a pass into the RZ that got called back for bogus offensive PI and we are probably tied or up a TD late in he 4th.

Now, having said that, if we totally blow the USM game I'm pretty much done. Their athletic department is a absolute joke. I know people that used to work in it and they needed another job to make ends meet. We blow this game and Lebby is on borrowed time.

[Coach34]

But we are plugging in better talent than last year. We lost that game in Tempe by a touchdown. One dropped sure TD pass and a pass into the RZ that got called back for bogus offensive PI and we are probably tied or up a TD late in he 4th.

Now, having said that, if we totally blow the USM game I'm pretty much done. Their athletic department is a absolute joke. I know people that used to work in it and they needed another job to make ends meet. We blow this game and Lebby is on borrowed time.

well you also have to look at them having a bunch of guys that are in their 2nd season in the program. They are experienced and know the Off and Def

[wablty]

ASU beat us by 7 points at their house they had a NFL running back and we had a lame duck coach who drives naked through Wendys. I don't know where the 17 yawls brain cells are. I think now we beat the shit out of them!

Hi, ASU fan. I wouldn't put much stock in the major regression because RB is gone angle.

Shaun Aguano has been the RB coach across staffs since 2019. He replaced Eno Benjamin with Rachaad White. He meant to replace White with Chip Trayanum, but he got homesick and went to go be a backup at Ohio State, so they brought in Vallady (who was great for a year). Then into Cam Skattebo. Now it's Kanye Udoh (1,100 yds, 12 TDs) from a 12 win team, plus the depth built up. Raleek Brown is, apparently, healthy for the first time since he was a 5 star freshman at USC and looking great. tldr, don't expect ASU's RBs to suck.

ASU's flaw, if you can call it that, is they're relying on transfer WRs to give them more dynamic receiving options besides Tyson and Metayer and their DL, which returns 7 of the top 8 and held Texas to 50 yards rushing, doesn't get tons of pressure. Solid at stopping the run, not a ton of juice so far at getting to the passer.

All that being said, I think the early road game to you guys could be a very dangerous game for us. Mississippi State got better. I'm anticipating a tough, physical game that y'all have a reasonable chance to win if you've got decent play from the QB.

IF you can't throw enough to make ASU respect it, we're probably going to boat race you unless the existing DL just had a massive "Look how cool we are" playoff regression. Because it's the same dudes, pretty much everywhere except WR, C and RB.

[wablty]

I promise- they will have another RB thats fairly solid. They are a Top 20 football team. Would be a great win if we can pull off the upset

Shaun Aguano, ASU's RB coach, started there in 2019. He had Eno Benjamin, who was good. Then he had Rachaad White who was good. Then Chip Trayanum got homesick and transferred to Ohio State to be a backup linebacker or something, so they brought in Valladay who was excellent. Into Cam Skattebo. Now it's Kanye Udoh, and rumor is Raleek Brown (former 5 star and 'next big thing' at USC) is finally healthy since early in his freshman year. I'm just an ASU fan passing through, so take it for what it's worth, but we aren't worried about running back. Prognosticators are, but they're dumb. We're gonna be pretty okay there.

The biggest issue for ASU is likely the pass rush. 7 of the top 8 from the DL are returned, but they didn't get a ton of pressure last year. They're all old, developed players, and it's now or never for them to show some juice. Previously? Good against the run (top rushing defense in Big 12, held Texas to 50 yards), but no reliable pressure. Which is why they sent the house and lost to Texas on 4th and 13. If your QB can pat the ball and make things happen, you've got a pretty decent chance to pull off an upset.

[Ezsoil]

Only if the DL learned how to get in the O Backfield and how to tackle.

Well looking back at last years OM game ..I felt the defensive scheme was quite good...much better than earlier in the year ...there was better gap integrity and it appeared we were better prepared and were in the right set on certain down and distance situations.

[Pinto]

Only 22 out of 133 teams have 11 or more returning starters on their rosters. Arizona State has 17.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hi, ASU fan. I wouldn't put much stock in the major regression because RB is gone angle.

Shaun Aguano has been the RB coach across staffs since 2019. He replaced Eno Benjamin with Rachaad White. He meant to replace White with Chip Trayanum, but he got homesick and went to go be a backup at Ohio State, so they brought in Vallady (who was great for a year). Then into Cam Skattebo. Now it's Kanye Udoh (1,100 yds, 12 TDs) from a 12 win team, plus the depth built up. Raleek Brown is, apparently, healthy for the first time since he was a 5 star freshman at USC and looking great. tldr, don't expect ASU's RBs to suck.

ASU's flaw, if you can call it that, is they're relying on transfer WRs to give them more dynamic receiving options besides Tyson and Metayer and their DL, which returns 7 of the top 8 and held Texas to 50 yards rushing, doesn't get tons of pressure. Solid at stopping the run, not a ton of juice so far at getting to the passer.

All that being said, I think the early road game to you guys could be a very dangerous game for us. Mississippi State got better. I'm anticipating a tough, physical game that y'all have a reasonable chance to win if you've got decent play from the QB.

IF you can't throw enough to make ASU respect it, we're probably going to boat race you unless the existing DL just had a massive "Look how cool we are" playoff regression. Because it's the same dudes, pretty much everywhere except WR, C and RB.

What are your thoughts on Leavitt? Can he rise to another level this year? It seemed like last year he just kind of managed the game and then Skattebo would take over late.

[Jack Lambert]

If they look crappy even with a win at USM he is in trouble.

[confucius say]

Meh. It's the first game with a ton of new players on both teams. Very little scout. Plus it's on the road and your opponent's Super Bowl.
Just win and get out of there.

[Hot Rock]

This doesn't need repeating, because it will be repeated 4500 more times til kick, but this game will decide the Jeff Lebby era. It's crazy to think that a game against a consensus top 15 team with a QB that's getting Heisman pub is that consequential, but it is. We HAVE to win the Arizona State game.

I mean does anyone else see another way to get to 6 wins without Arizona St?

Not me... Why this team won the BIG12 last year, has one of the QB's in the nation running it's offense. It only lost Scattaboo and it's running back room is as deep as ours. It has multiple high round draft picks on that defense

Must I go on?

Mississippi State does not have the proven players they have. We just brought in about 70 new players to roster just have the ability to have full practices. ASU will be favored and if you think this is a must win, then you don't know much about football and certainly about roster construction. We were a mess. Blame whoever but it's not on Lebby for what he inherited.

The DC, better show some improvement or we get another one after this year. I say go after Brent Venables to be the DC with Lebby and then let's role.

[Bothrops]

If our program has any pride they won't lose to Arizona State at home, period.

[Tater]

ASU was up 30-3 with 20 minutes to go in our game last year. Could easily be argued they let off the gas and then got their act together when they gave up a dumb 80 yd bomb.

[Hot Rock]

If our program has any pride they won't lose to Arizona State at home, period.

and you don't know football at all if you truly believe that.

Arizona State was a playoff team last year that pushed Texas to the edge in the playoff game. They could have easily beaten them and been the team that faced Ohio State in the championship game.

They lost one player of note and he wass a big piece in RB Scattebo but everyone is back on a top rated defense, he QB is picked to be a Heisman candidate and they have several good RB's.

Anyone saying this is a must win for us is either lying on purpose or knows nothing of them or us.

Yes, Our talent level has improved but they have equal or better talent and have been together for years and proven they play well together. If anything, it's a must win for them.