OK, 68 Days Until Football

[R2Dawg]

The resources are there to be competitive in football.
The primary difference in us and Mississippi is we hired leach and they hired kiffin.

Yep pretty much sums it up. Moorhead set us back too so a double hit then followup with ZA. That is a brutal 3 coach stretch. Saban would struggle now.

[TrapGame]

The resources are there to be competitive in football.
The primary difference in us and Mississippi is we hired leach and they hired kiffin.

We've been snake bit since Moorhead. Leach was a lazy hire by Cohen. We basically won the press conference and stole some of OM's thunder away from Kiffin. Refitting the program for the Air Raid was like trying to turn a Harley Hog into a Kawasaki crotch rocket. We are paying for that right now. And Arnett was the dumbest thing we've done so far this century. Yes, worse than Croom. I like Lebby but he's got to show something this season. He's got to beat ASU for one. And Hutzler better be coaching his ass off too.

[Goldendawg]

Better hope you?re wrong or you can kiss baseball and basketball goodbye too. Can?t afford it without SEC check.

This and what would competition be if we are ever left out of the next realignment? Would we fill up the Dude in this situation? We have to fix football or else.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This and what would competition be if we are ever left out of the next realignment? Would we fill up the Dude in this situation? We have to fix football or else.

You'd be relegated to the G5 level. No other power conference would have a need for us because no other power conference prioritizes baseball, which would be our only chip if football continues to go sideways. Now would you fill up The Dude......probably so but the price of season tickets would be 8-10x higher and the price of the rigs would be 25-50x higher to try and recoup money we'd lose by not being in the SEC. So yea you'd probably still have 8-10K but it'd be a mostly corporate crowd.

[NWADAWG]

We've been snake bit since Moorhead. Leach was a lazy hire by Cohen. We basically won the press conference and stole some of OM's thunder away from Kiffin. Refitting the program for the Air Raid was like trying to turn a Harley Hog into a Kawasaki crotch rocket. We are paying for that right now. And Arnett was the dumbest thing we've done so far this century. Yes, worse than Croom. I like Lebby but he's got to show something this season. He's got to beat ASU for one. And Hutzler better be coaching his ass off too.

Has anyone heard anything from players, or other real sources on what the feel is about defense? It seemed like scheme got a little better as the season went last year. We just didn't have the talent level to compete. Have the transfers upgraded that? Has anyone made a jump in development? Has Hutzler learned and improved?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Has anyone heard anything from players, or other real sources on what the feel is about defense? It seemed like scheme got a little better as the season went last year. We just didn't have the talent level to compete. Have the transfers upgraded that? Has anyone made a jump in development? Has Hutzler learned and improved?

It will be a lot better. Now, the bar is set very low to be better but we actually look like an SEC defense. Depth wise we will still be a bit thin and the CB opposite Kelley Jones could get adventurous at times but we will be better.

As far as who's made a jump, the names mentioned the most have been Zakari Tillman, Issac Smith, and Hunter Washington. As far as DL, it's all transfers. Everyone in the building is really high on Jamil Burroughs and Will Whitson.

On Hutzler, he learned last year that playing conservatively with what we had just wasn't going to work and he kind of had to start throwing caution to the wind. In that, I think he learned a lot into what could work for the future and out of certain packages. Adding Rhoads and MacIntyre didn't hurt either.

[R2Dawg]

We've been snake bit since Moorhead. Leach was a lazy hire by Cohen. We basically won the press conference and stole some of OM's thunder away from Kiffin. Refitting the program for the Air Raid was like trying to turn a Harley Hog into a Kawasaki crotch rocket. We are paying for that right now. And Arnett was the dumbest thing we've done so far this century. Yes, worse than Croom. I like Lebby but he's got to show something this season. He's got to beat ASU for one. And Hutzler better be coaching his ass off too.

Trap, good comparison with the motorcycle. I got a Harley and had a Honda years ago. Both are motorcycles and that is about where the comparison ends. Like I said in previous post, we screwed up 3 coaching hires in a row. That is hard to do. Then NIL/portal on top of that. We got a massive hole to dig out of. If Lebby does it, he is the man. If not some signs this year, time to get the right man.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Cohen had one job hire Chris klieman when he was at NDSU but of course he failed and hired Moorhead and here we are

[StarkVegasSteve]

Cohen had one job hire Chris klieman when he was at NDSU but of course he failed and hired Moorhead and here we are

If he would've hired Chris Kleiman, an FCS coach at the time, our fan base would've had a mutiny Tennessee and A&M could only dream of having. I mean we talk all the time about how we're serious and you would've wanted to not just not hire a P4 or G5 HC, but an FCS coach. It doesn't matter how successful he was. It would've been viewed quite unfavorably. Kleiman is in a great spot at KSU and he didn't have to really move his recruiting base. Coming here would've shifted him into an unknown recruiting base and the SEC is not a learn as you go conference.

I mean we've got people having a lot of revisionist history on the Moorhead hire. There weren't many people, in our fanbase or out, that were saying we made a bad or questionable hire. Hell there were OM fans who were pissed because he'd been linked to them if Luke wouldn't have been retained in 17.

[PGHBulldogBG]

If he would've hired Chris Kleiman, an FCS coach at the time, our fan base would've had a mutiny Tennessee and A&M could only dream of having. I mean we talk all the time about how we're serious and you would've wanted to not just not hire a P4 or G5 HC, but an FCS coach. It doesn't matter how successful he was. It would've been viewed quite unfavorably. Kleiman is in a great spot at KSU and he didn't have to really move his recruiting base. Coming here would've shifted him into an unknown recruiting base and the SEC is not a learn as you go conference.

I mean we've got people having a lot of revisionist history on the Moorhead hire. There weren't many people, in our fanbase or out, that were saying we made a bad or questionable hire. Hell there were OM fans who were pissed because he'd been linked to them if Luke wouldn't have been retained in 17.

I don?t care what our fanbase would?ve thought at the time but I advocated for him because he was a fantastic coach and kept winning national titles at a small school. They would?ve got over it once he won 10 or 11 games with the 2018 team. If our fanbase really cared about football they would?ve seen it was the best hire at the time and we wouldn?t have witnessed our players looking like dweebs when we played KSU on our home field two years later up against not rated and 2 star players. And our fanbase that thought he was a good hire has never been to PA and heard the jokes made about Moorhead and how much he underachieved there I heard it all the time and knew it would be a disaster

[Coach34]

We're still going to be bad in football. Make money this Fall on us. We still lack talent
The SEC is not going to kick us out. They arent going to kick Kentucky or Candy out either
I'm ready for basketball season.
Then baseball season starts and we get to watch one of the SEC's best pitching rotations

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