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    5-0 vs. the Mets this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    5-0 vs. the Mets this season
    Not anymore. AA has found him another treasure off the AAA junk heap to insert for an automatic every 5th start loss. Can?t wait til we give Dodd and someone else a turn!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BravesDoggy View Post
    Not anymore. AA has found him another treasure off the AAA junk heap to insert for an automatic every 5th start loss. Can?t wait til we give Dodd and someone else a turn!!
    Can't tell if you're serious. The kid certainly isn't ready, but when you down 3 starters, you don't have good choices. He's 20 with 2 plus pitches
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    Harris needed more time at the AAA Level. He was brought up before he was ready. Heck they got rid of 3 dam good catchers who are excelling in thee bigs and their farm system isn't that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    Harris needed more time at the AAA Level. He was brought up before he was ready. Heck they got rid of 3 dam good catchers who are excelling in thee bigs and their farm system isn't that good.
    This is going to sound bad but I kinda wanted MH2 to miss a game or two after getting hit by that pitch just to give him a reset of sorts.

    He's pretty horrible right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    This is going to sound bad but I kinda wanted MH2 to miss a game or two after getting hit by that pitch just to give him a reset of sorts.

    He's pretty horrible right now.
    The problem is there's no option. I really believe if kelenic weren't hitting just as bad in AAA, he'd be up right now with Harris down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    The problem is there's no option. I really believe if kelenic weren't hitting just as bad in AAA, he'd be up right now with Harris down.
    Eli White can probably play CF. But as much as possible you want MH2 to get ABs and work his way through it.

    Interesting thought I saw on the Twitters: trade Baldwin for a stud SS. Idea is you'll never get one otherwise, and Murphy/Stud at c/SS is better than Baldwin/crap, when taken together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Eli White can probably play CF. But as much as possible you want MH2 to get ABs and work his way through it.

    Interesting thought I saw on the Twitters: trade Baldwin for a stud SS. Idea is you'll never get one otherwise, and Murphy/Stud at c/SS is better than Baldwin/crap, when taken together.
    I'd prefer trade Murphy for a good package of whatever, and take on Correa. Lots of money comes off the books next season. He's signed for 3 more seasons, and that's basically our window

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'd prefer trade Murphy for a good package of whatever, and take on Correa. Lots of money comes off the books next season. He's signed for 3 more seasons, and that's basically our window
    It's a sobering thought to think that the Braves had a decade long window and may only get one championship out of it. After 18 I was expecting at least 3-4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'd prefer trade Murphy for a good package of whatever, and take on Correa. Lots of money comes off the books next season. He's signed for 3 more seasons, and that's basically our window
    The general consensus is Murphy doesn't have much surplus value over his contract. He likely won't bring much back, though we could shed payroll without losing much production...so long as Baldwin doesn't get figured out or slump. Maybe a contender overpays at the deadline, but I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    The general consensus is Murphy doesn't have much surplus value over his contract. He likely won't bring much back, though we could shed payroll without losing much production...so long as Baldwin doesn't get figured out or slump. Maybe a contender overpays at the deadline, but I doubt it.
    I would disagree with the consensus then. He's on a 4.4 fWAR pace this season using 162 games. He's only paid 15 million per after this season. That's quite valuable

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I would disagree with the consensus then. He's on a 4.4 fWAR pace this season using 162 games. He's only paid 15 million per after this season. That's quite valuable
    He's a 3 WAR player right now I'd say. Teams don't care about a 162 game pace, they care about games actually played. Maybe he could play more and not see a drop in production, maybe not.

    That's still worth about $25M per year, so there is some surplus value. But when you factor in decreased production from aging, there's just not a lot there. Maybe $25M in surplus value, maybe more. I'm not sure how to relate that much value to a prospect, but I'd think you'd roughly take total value for 5 years. That comes out to less than 1 WAR value. That's a bench bat or reliever, not a quality player.

    Baldwin probably has $100 or $150M in surplus value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BravesDoggy View Post
    I know that they haven't been full strength with the rotation and the bullpen has been very shaky, but we haven't even reached the end of May and there have been 4 shutout losses and 5 losses with the score either 2-1 or 3-1. That is inexcusable for a team that is built around "friendly deals" for all of this supposed firepower. 7 summed it up well above, this team is streaky as shit. And I don't think getting Profar back in the lineup is going to solve anything because he is as streaky as the rest. This team needs a professional HITTER, someone that is going to get you a .280-.300 average and put the ball in play. I don't know who that is at this point but damn I am tired of seeing a runner on 3rd with one out and seeing 2 straight K's. This lineup is just not competitive when it matters.
    His name is carlos rodriguez currently in Gwinett. He hutting over 300. He is a marteen prado clone. Always gets a hit with RISP. He was in Biloxi but the braves signed him to the office 40 man roster. He had a dam good spring training.

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