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06-24-2025, 10:28 PM
#421

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
I think we end up with only 5 high school signees after the draft.
Then we may lose 2 portal guys. Then 2-5 rostered guys.
You are saying that Charlie Wortham and Richie Swain are not coming to college?
If this is true, we fired Lemonhead just in time.
Instead of all these good P4 transfers MSU would be fielding Pearl River, Hinds, and Itawamba All Stars in 2026. Probably some random dudes from Arizona Western Community College, some power hitting Nigerian catcher named Micheal Oyefesobi. Just like those horrible last Jackie Sherrill recruiting classes.
Last edited by The Federalist Engineer; 06-24-2025 at 11:08 PM.
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06-24-2025, 10:34 PM
#422

Originally Posted by
No BS Dawg
Davion Hickson from Rice? If so, would be another great get.
Would be great transfer, but it seems he's draft bound. He is eligble, talented and just had good year.
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06-25-2025, 12:08 AM
#423

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Yes. I think the Parker twins are both gone. I also think Harmon and Bauer are gone. I say this with 99% confidence.
Then Beliveau is highly signable. Rhodes pitched great at the combine and can't really raise his stock much in college. And Mershon is liked by some teams. I think we keep only 1 of these 3.
Then you have Miller, Wortham, Frontino, and Swain who should all make it to school.
Beliveau? I guess if he just wants whatever they offer him. Probably would be a bad decision on his part. Are you saying that you think Rhodes is going in the first or second round? Because I highly doubt that. Which means he can improve his stock in college. I mean he is a 6'1 185 pound RHP that tops out at 96. That doesn't exactly scream let's spend 3 million on this guy in this day and age. Unless he is poor as dirt or something and is fine taking whatever he gets.
You basically just laid out the absolute worst case scenario and I will say this about the MLB draft after following it for years- it's never as good as it could be and it's never as bad as it could be either.
And in this era where college players are taking more and more of a priority for MLB teams- the top recruiting class in the country which isn't us as you know is going to get more than five to school.
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06-25-2025, 08:46 AM
#424

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Beliveau? I guess if he just wants whatever they offer him. Probably would be a bad decision on his part. Are you saying that you think Rhodes is going in the first or second round? Because I highly doubt that. Which means he can improve his stock in college. I mean he is a 6'1 185 pound RHP that tops out at 96. That doesn't exactly scream let's spend 3 million on this guy in this day and age. Unless he is poor as dirt or something and is fine taking whatever he gets.
You basically just laid out the absolute worst case scenario and I will say this about the MLB draft after following it for years- it's never as good as it could be and it's never as bad as it could be either.
And in this era where college players are taking more and more of a priority for MLB teams- the top recruiting class in the country which isn't us as you know is going to get more than five to school.
If you've been reading my posts, you should just trust me. I told everyone weeks ago that we had no shot at Becker despite whatever Steve or Robbie or those guys were saying. I was the first to post that BOC would leave UVA. I also posted that Henry Ford was going to UT as soon as he hit the portal.
We will only keep 1 of those 3 players I mentioned. Mershon will be a draft eligible sophomore so he might make it to college but the Mershons were big fans of Lemonis and Gaut so it's iffy. Rhodes is iffy too. Neither will get 3 million but 1.5 million is a lot of money too. I think Beliveau would sign for mid-six figures. If any of these 3 are drafted in the first 10 rounds, they are gone
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06-25-2025, 09:01 AM
#425

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
If you've been reading my posts, you should just trust me. I told everyone weeks ago that we had no shot at Becker despite whatever Steve or Robbie or those guys were saying. I was the first to post that BOC would leave UVA. I also posted that Henry Ford was going to UT as soon as he hit the portal.
We will only keep 1 of those 3 players I mentioned. Mershon will be a draft eligible sophomore so he might make it to college but the Mershons were big fans of Lemonis and Gaut so it's iffy. Rhodes is iffy too. Neither will get 3 million but 1.5 million is a lot of money too. I think Beliveau would sign for mid-six figures. If any of these 3 are drafted in the first 10 rounds, they are gone
Well aren't you just a ray of Sunshine!
We might as well go the way of Suwannee!
Anybody got any suggestions on what we could use the 3 major athletics facilities on campus for? Concerts at Dudy Noble? Rodeo at Davis Wade? Mud Wrestling at the Hump?
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06-25-2025, 09:03 AM
#426
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
If you've been reading my posts, you should just trust me. I told everyone weeks ago that we had no shot at Becker despite whatever Steve or Robbie or those guys were saying. I was the first to post that BOC would leave UVA. I also posted that Henry Ford was going to UT as soon as he hit the portal.
We will only keep 1 of those 3 players I mentioned. Mershon will be a draft eligible sophomore so he might make it to college but the Mershons were big fans of Lemonis and Gaut so it's iffy. Rhodes is iffy too. Neither will get 3 million but 1.5 million is a lot of money too. I think Beliveau would sign for mid-six figures. If any of these 3 are drafted in the first 10 rounds, they are gone
In consideration of that are you surprised P Mershon remained committed to our program?
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06-25-2025, 09:15 AM
#427

Originally Posted by
captaindog
In consideration of that are you surprised P Mershon remained committed to our program?
A little. But he had already decommitted from South Carolina. Probably didn't want to go thru that process again and the family loves MSU too. Also, if you are leaning pro's, there no point.
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06-25-2025, 09:23 AM
#428
I am not worried about the draft, I wish all of them well plus it's better to sign draft able guys than not. It shows me BOC can recruit. Also it's a freaking rebuild year regardless of what we think. Things will come together and so of u naysayers don't understand what has to be done for the future.
I trust BOC and staff way more than what we have had in the past.
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06-25-2025, 09:52 AM
#429

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
If you've been reading my posts, you should just trust me. I told everyone weeks ago that we had no shot at Becker despite whatever Steve or Robbie or those guys were saying. I was the first to post that BOC would leave UVA. I also posted that Henry Ford was going to UT as soon as he hit the portal.
We will only keep 1 of those 3 players I mentioned. Mershon will be a draft eligible sophomore so he might make it to college but the Mershons were big fans of Lemonis and Gaut so it's iffy. Rhodes is iffy too. Neither will get 3 million but 1.5 million is a lot of money too. I think Beliveau would sign for mid-six figures. If any of these 3 are drafted in the first 10 rounds, they are gone
If you are Gautreau, this is cool you are sharing. Are Sully and Frei staying?
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06-25-2025, 09:52 AM
#430

Originally Posted by
basedog
I am not worried about the draft, I wish all of them well plus it's better to sign draft able guys than not. It shows me BOC can recruit. Also it's a freaking rebuild year regardless of what we think. Things will come together and so of u naysayers don't understand what has to be done for the future.
I trust BOC and staff way more than what we have had in the past.
Those don't exist in the portal era, especially with what we're giving him and the staff in terms of NIL and rev share. The goal is Omaha from Day 1. That's how it's always been at Mississippi State.
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06-25-2025, 10:15 AM
#431

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Those don't exist in the portal era, especially with what we're giving him and the staff in terms of NIL and rev share. The goal is Omaha from Day 1. That's how it's always been at Mississippi State.
It's definitely not a rebuild year. We are a couple of pieces away from an Omaha caliber roster
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06-25-2025, 10:18 AM
#432

Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
If you are Gautreau, this is cool you are sharing. Are Sully and Frei staying?
Neither are high draft picks or bonus babies. Just depends if they are ready to move on with their lives. My guess is both move on but if they return, it's a nice bonus. BOC has it covered if they do move on.
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06-25-2025, 10:18 AM
#433

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
It's definitely not a rebuild year. We are a couple of pieces away from an Omaha caliber roster
Rebuilding is every year now days, but still you have to rebuild chemistry.
Big difference in a new HC versus one that is already in place a few years!
Last edited by basedog; 06-25-2025 at 10:21 AM.
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06-25-2025, 10:23 AM
#434

Originally Posted by
basedog
Rebuilding is every year now days, but still you have to rebuild chemistry.
That is true.
High school recruiting does have to be rebuilt. Lemonis was awful in this area. Going forward I expect us to have a core group of returning players every year with portal guys filling gaps. But that's going to take time.
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06-25-2025, 10:43 AM
#435

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
That is true.
High school recruiting does have to be rebuilt. Lemonis was awful in this area. Going forward I expect us to have a core group of returning players every year with portal guys filling gaps. But that's going to take time.
Good response. Thanks and I agree.
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06-25-2025, 10:54 AM
#436
Aidan Teel is 430th in Baseball America's Top 500 prospects. That's middle of the 15th round. I think he comes to school, especially since he's only a sophomore
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06-25-2025, 10:56 AM
#437
Btw, Frei, Sullivan, Valincius, Bevis, Nate Williams, Siary, Ben Davis aren't listed.
Doesn't mean they don't get drafted late and sign. But I think we get several of those guys back.
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06-25-2025, 11:08 AM
#438

Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
Aidan Teel is 430th in Baseball America's Top 500 prospects. That's middle of the 15th round. I think he comes to school, especially since he's only a sophomore
We should be good with Teel. The only transfer we probably will have to worry about will be Bevis. I know he's not listed, but everyone believes he's a pretty big draft risk.
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06-25-2025, 11:31 AM
#439

Originally Posted by
basedog
Also it's a freaking rebuild year regardless of what we think.
**** that. We dont rebuild at State. We reload. We should have one of the best weekend rotations in the SEC- that alone means you arent rebuilding
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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06-25-2025, 11:32 AM
#440

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
High school recruiting does have to be rebuilt. Lemonis was awful in this area.
Yes- 100%
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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