Gautreau and Parker

[Saltydog]

That's the bad thing about some of these coaching changes that people don't think about and that's the impact it has on lives and families. I think they both did one hell'uva job so it's tough to see these kinda coaches let go. I also understand that it's also a business. I hate it for Parker and Goat.

[Commercecomet24]

Draw is definitely part of it.

Yep the biggest part of it!

[SpaceBully]

[QUOTE=Cooterpoot;1657180]I don't think so. I think this is just emotional MSU fans. He didn't manage the regional very well, nor did he recruit well enough. Good guy and above average pitching coach right now. He's got a ways to go. I think Gotro will be a pretty decent HC if he what's to do it.[/QTE]

[Todd4State]

[QUOTE=SpaceBully;1657515]

I don't think so. I think this is just emotional MSU fans. He didn't manage the regional very well, nor did he recruit well enough. Good guy and above average pitching coach right now. He's got a ways to go. I think Gotro will be a pretty decent HC if he what's to do it.[/QTE]

Well based on his history at Virginia plus the fact that he now has more resources to use than ever I would say it would be safe to assume that the odds of him recruiting well at MSU are really high.

And really the only time I remember MSU not recruiting well was during Polk 2 and that was just because Polk was outdated and stubborn at that time as far as recruiting goes.

[Todd4State]

That's the bad thing about some of these coaching changes that people don't think about and that's the impact it has on lives and families. I think they both did one hell'uva job so it's tough to see these kinda coaches let go. I also understand that it's also a business. I hate it for Parker and Goat.

Getting fired as a baseball coach isn't like getting fired from our regular jobs. Those guys move around a lot more. They know if the team is making changes what is going to happen and they have a lot of connections where they will find a job probably in a matter of weeks.

Plus- Lemonis was paid like what? 1.something million since 2021 I think. Unless he has completely mismanaged his money he should be able to take a year off or more if he wanted to and still live pretty comfortably. He'll probably easily find a head coaching job if he wanted to. Wouldn't surprise me if he found one this offseason. Wouldn't surprise me if he is just waiting out South Carolina either because I doubt Manieri is going to be there for long. He will be a splash hire for someone like The Citadel or the College of Charleston. He'll have options. And Gautreau and Parker will have plenty of options. Gautreau could probably make a couple of phone calls and get hired by A&M right now. He could get a head coaching job if he wanted to as well. ULM? And Parker is one of the better pitching coaches in the SEC. There's always demand for that and he might also get a head coaching job as well. Cheese might have to do baseball lessons or something or try to find another coaching job until he can link back up with Lemonis.

[Cooterpoot]

[QUOTE=SpaceBully;1657515]

I don't think so. I think this is just emotional MSU fans. He didn't manage the regional very well, nor did he recruit well enough. Good guy and above average pitching coach right now. He's got a ways to go. I think Gotro will be a pretty decent HC if he what's to do it.[/QTE]

Have you seen what VA has done under him in the draft? And Muscara is an elite recruiter already at a school without our resources. Did you see our portal failures under Parker this past year? Name all the HS talent Jake sent to the league the last three years. It's slim outside portal guys. We've stopped developing any HS hitters (Jordan was already a draft guy). We just hired a hitting coach who has more this year than Geaut has had in three years.
You acting like we didn't just hire one of the top staffs in college ball is crazy. Even if Parker stayed onboard, it would still be great.

[sandjunky]

Had MSU gone to Hattiesburg, would have won that regional. Beat Miami (Pico), Columbia (Davis), USM (Siary), Ligon Rested.

Would be vs Louisville for the Super. Toss up to Omaha.

I think MSU would have won the North Carolina and Clemson regionals too.

Miami wouldn?t have been there since they were a 3 seed

[StarkVegasSteve]

Getting fired as a baseball coach isn't like getting fired from our regular jobs. Those guys move around a lot more. They know if the team is making changes what is going to happen and they have a lot of connections where they will find a job probably in a matter of weeks.

Plus- Lemonis was paid like what? 1.something million since 2021 I think. Unless he has completely mismanaged his money he should be able to take a year off or more if he wanted to and still live pretty comfortably. He'll probably easily find a head coaching job if he wanted to. Wouldn't surprise me if he found one this offseason. Wouldn't surprise me if he is just waiting out South Carolina either because I doubt Manieri is going to be there for long. He will be a splash hire for someone like The Citadel or the College of Charleston. He'll have options. And Gautreau and Parker will have plenty of options. Gautreau could probably make a couple of phone calls and get hired by A&M right now. He could get a head coaching job if he wanted to as well. ULM? And Parker is one of the better pitching coaches in the SEC. There's always demand for that and he might also get a head coaching job as well. Cheese might have to do baseball lessons or something or try to find another coaching job until he can link back up with Lemonis.

I'll say this with Jake, we REALLY don't need another SEC team to hire him. It could get dicey with a few bats we are really counting on.

[Coursesuper]

I'll say this with Jake, we REALLY don't need another SEC team to hire him. It could get dicey with a few bats we are really counting on.

You damn right, when he lands another gig that will be something we will defiantly have to be worried about. I'm sure that they are already discussing next years NIL deals with the players we are going to keep and be ready to see a bunch hit the portal.

[basedog]

You damn right, when he lands another gig that will be something we will defiantly have to be worried about. I'm sure that they are already discussing next years NIL deals with the players we are going to keep and be ready to see a bunch hit the portal.

Look, we needed a change regardless of what assistant is let go. Hey I wish all the best of luck, but right now they are free agents and whatever they go go luck. I trust our new HC way more than losing an assistant. I like both Parker and Gotr, but i think we will be fine replacing both.

[Medic601]

That is part of the job with these guys and they know the risk they run. Sure they are big State guys while here but if another program flashes money or comes calling after they are let go, I promise they will put on an Ole Miss, LSU, or another programs jersey in a flat second.

I know people feel these guys are all emotionally attached to their team but the fact is, they really arent and they know it is a job. Jake or anyone else will have on another jersey in no time and be coaching a team that is possibly trying to ruin States chance of going to a post season bid or something else? and he will be super excited and congratulate his team if they are successful in doing so.

Remember, it is a job and they want to get paid.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Jake had just been through so much with us. I think that's the connection people have to him. He, Gary, Mike, and AJ guided us through that 2018 season and he was the one that stayed and saw the goal that Andy set before us to completion. Like yea we have a connection with Chris and Kyle too but Jake was there even before them. Jake was there at 2-7 in SEC play and 14-15 overall. I think that's the connection. He was there at the worst and the message was keep fighting for that fanbase.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Well........I may have written the Parker farewell a little too soon. There's a growing sentiment that he may return in the same capacity.

[KB21]

Well........I may have written the Parker farewell a little too soon. There's a growing sentiment that he may return in the same capacity.

I'll be a bit disappointed if they don't get Muscara.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'll be a bit disappointed if they don't get Muscara.

Well then you may be disappointed. Because it doesn't seem like the consternation is on his side. Seems like it's on ours and that usually means someone else is in the running for the job and may have a leg up. And to echo what you and others have said, I will trust O'Connor on this one. He may like Parker's SEC experience.

And look, it could just be a contract language thing we are working through and we announce him tomorrow night.

[State82]

If O'Connor prefers Parker then by all means it needs to be Parker. The program now has a new sheriff and whatever he wants he should have.

[basedog]

If O'Connor prefers Parker then by all means it needs to be Parker. The program now has a new sheriff and whatever he wants he should have.

Exactly, he is the new Sheriff and it ain't us fans picking, I am for whomever he picks. I don't care even if it's his second choice, mainly because he was a PC.

[Cooterpoot]

BOC can run things how he wants. Parker would be fine if Muscara isn't the guy. But he better start finding talent and fast because we won't have much pitching talent left Parker stays around and Muscara isn't bringing recruits. I like Parker, I just think he struggled getting talent and pulling pitchers in a bind.

[DawgFromOxford]

BOC can run things how he wants. Parker would be fine if Muscara isn't the guy. But he better start finding talent and fast because we won't have much pitching talent left Parker stays around and Muscara isn't bringing recruits. I like Parker, I just think he struggled getting talent and pulling pitchers in a bind.

I wonder if thats a Parker thing or if thats pitching recruits looking at Lemonis and knowing they would be coming to play for a team that wouldn?t compete for anything. If it?s purely about pitching you?d have to think Parker?s track record is attractive. But im not a 20 year old D1 pitcher so who knows

[StateDawg44]

Nvm.