When is the last time the disparity has been this big?

[DDawg]

The disparity ( despair-ity) between us and OM right now is pretty drastic.

Football:
Them: 10-3, 1st round QB
Us: 2-10, 0-8 SEC, nobody drafted at all.

Basketball;
Them: Sweet 16 and almost elite 8
Us: first round losers again, haven?t one a single game since 2008

Baseball:
Them: playing in sec final as we speak
Us: firing coach mid season and barely squeezing out a regional appearance after getting blown out in the first round of the tournament.

I don?t know what the answer is but it?s sickening how they have widened the gap on us in recent years and it doesn?t look like that?s changing anytime soon. I know we can beat them regular season in atleast basketball and baseball but that?s not worth much of anything in the grand scheme of things.

[Dawgology]

This has been the plan for a while and state hasn’t helped their position. The powers that be want one major sports school in the state of ms and msu blew their chance to be that.

[confucius say]

There's no difference in basketball. We swept them. Their draw was better in the ncaa. There's two years prior we finished a good bit of them.

There's no difference in baseball. Or marginal at most. We finished 1 game apart and we won the series. Either team could win a regional.

They have been way ahead in football due to them making a great hire and us making a few bad hires. But that gap will be closed this fall, as you will see. They will still be better though.

[DDawg]

There?s a difference in basketball and you?re either blind or stupid if you don?t realize that.

Baseball I?m marginal on, and frankly could care less about either way.

[ZedFedder]

There's no difference in basketball. We swept them. Their draw was better in the ncaa. There's two years prior we finished a good bit of them.

There's no difference in baseball. Or marginal at most. We finished 1 game apart and we won the series. Either team could win a regional.

They have been way ahead in football due to them making a great hire and us making a few bad hires. But that gap will be closed this fall, as you will see. They will still be better though.

This. Not to mention they did not even make postseason in baseball last year.

[Quaoarsking]

Our fans pout about NIL and theirs have embraced it. They have more fire to win. I think that's in the process of changing, but we are a few years behind at this point and need to catch up.

[Tater]

It ebbs and flows.

In 2018-19, we punked them in football 35-3 with a first year coach and made sure they weren't bowl eligible. Had 3 first round draft picks (yea the Raiders taking Abram was dumb just like the Giants taking Dart is dumb.) We were a 5 seed in men's basketball with a coach who had final fours on his resume while they were sitting at home. And we went to Omaha with a first year coach while Bianco floundered again in the Supers.

Either Lebby will turn it around this year or we'll get another coach in here who will. Our baseball team can win with any coach and folks might be surprised at the run we make this postseason. And basketball we just have gotten horrendous bracket draws. OM was gifted a wounded 3 seed and an 11 seed that didn't deserve to be in the tournament. If we had their draw, we're at minimum in the sweet 16 and probably in the Elite 8. We'll be better than them again next year in regular season and just need to not play a former championship winning coach first round.


The only gap is football and that's because our Coach died while we were searching for an AD and just had no plan. Leach was going to retire here. It hurts because Robertson really looks like he's about to be a 1st round QB next year. We were primed to be a perennial 8/9 win team and get a playoff berth every other year with him at minimum.

[CaptainObvious]

Our fans pout about NIL and theirs have embraced it. They have more fire to win. I think that's in the process of changing, but we are a few years behind at this point and need to catch up.

Before NIL, they were also much better cheaters than State and it was encouraged. I don't condone cheating, but we had and have an admin that wouldn't even color outside the lines a little bit.

[Coursesuper]

We are feeling the fallout from the short sightedness of entitled people who have no regard for the good of the university just getting what they wanted.

[CaptainObvious]

We are feeling the fallout from the short sightedness of entitled people who have no regard for the good of the university just getting what they wanted.

Believe you me. There is no more an entitled bunch then the money men and women at Ole Miss. They spend more for their access. But if you think Joe Littleman is boosting their finances for athletics, you have been misinformed. They have more big donors to athletics then State does and by a lot! One of our biggest donors donated 100% of their large gift to academics. Because getting their name on a building is more important than winning football, baseball or basketball games. It's not that way at Ole Miss. for every 1 rebel academics donor, there are 10 athletics donors. They also have a lot of sidewalk fans with money who never attended. I know because I grew up around them!

[Coursesuper]

Believe you me. There is no more an entitled bunch then the money men and women at Ole Miss. They sorbs more for their access. But if you think Joe Littleman is boosting their finances for athletics, you have been misinformed. They have more big donors to athletics then State died and by a lot! One of our biggest donors donated 100% of their large gift to academics. Because getting their name on a building is more important than winning football, baseball or basketball games. It's not that way at Ole Miss. for every 1 rebel academics donor, there are 10 athletics donors. They also have a lot of sidewalk fans with money who never attended. I know because I grew up around them!

Truthfully it?s all Missippy there is not as much difference in the people, they are just able to be on the same page when we 17 each other over to get what we want. Hopefully we are going to get our collective shat together, we are showing signs of this. But I have seen it ebb and flow for us, we just picked a bad, bad time to 17 it up.

[Offshore Dawg]

the rebels have more fans that feel like their dicks are being cut off if they loose a ballgame. you know the type that lean on the water cooler at work on Monday to say " haha WE beat you."

[CaptainObvious]

Apparently, Vandy doesn't need NIL funds like everybody else does for Baseball! Corbin is legit and there has never been a doubt!

[KOdawg1]

They embraced NIL and the transfer portal from start while we did essentially nothing. There's the difference.

They also aren't afraid to hire coaches with baggage while our president and boosters would never go for that. They want to win at all costs. We like to win, but it's not our #1 priority.

[confucius say]

There?s a difference in basketball and you?re either blind or stupid if you don?t realize that.

Baseball I?m marginal on, and frankly could care less about either way.

You seem to be the only one who thinks there is more than a marginal difference, if any difference at all. Certainly not a "drastic" difference as you claimed in the OP.
The only drastic difference is football.

[EdwardDrayton]

Bottom line: the message for the administrative folks is 'fix it'. And 'fix it' pretty 17ing quickly or clear the lot of them and find folks who can.

[Coursesuper]

Bottom line: the message for the administrative folks is 'fix it'. And 'fix it' pretty 17ing quickly or clear the lot of them and find folks who can.

What if the admin folks aren?t the real problem? They are easy to blame though.

[EdwardDrayton]

What if the admin folks aren?t the real problem? They are easy to blame though.

I understand what you mean Course. But they are ultimately responsible nonetheless even if they are not to blame.

[confucius say]

We have a basketball program that is a perennial tournament team. Enjoy the ride.

Nail this hire and baseball is fixed.

Football is the chore. Going to take some work to steer that ship the right way. Need to win 5 this year.

[DDawg]

You seem to be the only one who thinks there is more than a marginal difference, if any difference at all. Certainly not a "drastic" difference as you claimed in the OP.
The only drastic difference is football.

I stand on the fact they are absolutely a better basketball program than us right now.

People can say they had a easy draw yeah okay lol maybe we woulda had a better draw if we didn?t have a bum coach who falls apart after January so I?m not giving into that one bit. Beard is a objectively better coach and I don?t seem him getting rug pulled and flipped on by 3 star dudes to go to schools like SMU. They are a significantly better basketball program than us at the moment, and a couple of regular season wins doesn?t change that for me or anyone who watches on the national stage.

Add to the fact that we have historically been the basketball school in the state, to have some people see it as ?marginal? should tell you something.