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05-05-2025, 10:14 PM
#121

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We'll see because the reality is so far Virginia has already made it clear to O'Conner that they prioritize lacrosse over baseball and he has been open to leaving after years of loyalty.
If he comes to MSU he isn't going to have to compete for money or support.
I could definitely see the appeal of coming here from his standpoint.
If you are right, I win.
I would love to have O'Conner.
This feels like a Kirk Presley, Doug Buckles, Cam Newton, Othella Harrington, Blaze Jordan, Roy Oswalt, Schloss, "Texas QB", Paul Skenes ... disappointment, hustle job, or media chiseling
Because Bert Stare hasn't mentioned O'Conner, the possibility is non Zero. Is Gene saying "O'Conner"?
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05-06-2025, 01:18 AM
#122

Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
If you are right, I win.
I would love to have O'Conner.
This feels like a Kirk Presley, Doug Buckles, Cam Newton, Othella Harrington, Blaze Jordan, Roy Oswalt, Schloss, "Texas QB", Paul Skenes ... disappointment, hustle job, or media chiseling
Because Bert Stare hasn't mentioned O'Conner, the possibility is non Zero. Is Gene saying "O'Conner"?
I mean I think we all win. For me it wouldn't be that disappointing because I think we have a lot of other good options out there. I don't think this is O'Conner or bust.
The only way I would be disappointed is if we just promoted Parker or if we hired Elander. Because both would be lazy picks and both are not likely to work out.
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05-06-2025, 08:26 AM
#123

Originally Posted by
SPMT
If that?s truly the case then we are clueless.
Who do I switch my baseball fandom to?
I like Clemson colors. Bama, LSU, Tenn?.. who is serious?
LSU is the only choice. If you are going to switch, go with the best. I can't stand them but they are going to continue to win multiple more CWS championships.
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05-06-2025, 08:30 AM
#124

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Nope, All this stuff was fabricated BS
This is what I think too. I don't believe any of the rumors I've read about this search and our baseball program.
We'll hire Butch or Parker, Elander, Coggin. And any of those will be better than Lemonis.
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05-06-2025, 09:27 AM
#125

Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
This is what I think too. I don't believe any of the rumors I've read about this search and our baseball program.
We'll hire Butch or Parker, Elander, Coggin. And any of those will be better than Lemonis.
I'm not sure we'll hire any of those guys or anyone else, but right now, I'd bet we hire a sitting head coach not named Butch, and there's almost no way Parker gets this job. Again, that's just based on the limited info because we don't know who is playing the pay raise and mo money game with the process.
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05-06-2025, 09:59 AM
#126

Originally Posted by
TheLostDawg
This

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
I'm not sure we'll hire any of those guys or anyone else, but right now, I'd bet we hire a sitting head coach not named Butch, and there's almost no way Parker gets this job. Again, that's just based on the limited info because we don't know who is playing the pay raise and mo money game with the process.
Fitzgerald seems like a hire that we make. Similarities to Lemonis at Indiana
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05-06-2025, 10:16 AM
#127

Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
Comon man, GSU resources in the 1970s would be a new net for the batting cage and a new washing machine for home games. MSU probably matched the Net, had multiple hand-me-down washing machines from Football, and gave Polk his own personal typewriter.
Today, UVA is being pressed for multiple Millions for NIL. UVA business and Law School alumni will raise the money. Now that it's do-or-die, they'll pay up.
Lol. 100%
We’re in for a letdown, as usual.
Last edited by Turfdawg67; 05-06-2025 at 10:23 AM.
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05-06-2025, 11:22 AM
#128
I'm not sure how Dan Fitzgerald is similar to Lemonis. Lemonis took over an Indiana program that had gone to Omaha after Tracey Smith left Indiana for Arizona State. Dan Fitzgerald took over a program that has never done anything and has them in position to win the Big 12.
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05-06-2025, 11:46 AM
#129
I think the top 5 for this job right now are in some order:
Brian O'Connor/Virginia
Wes Johnson/Georgia
Tom Walter/Wake Forest
Butch Thompson/Auburn
Skip Johnson/Oklahoma
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05-06-2025, 11:48 AM
#130

Originally Posted by
KB21
I think the top 5 for this job right now are in some order:
Brian O'Connor/Virginia
Wes Johnson/Georgia
Tom Walter/Wake Forest
Butch Thompson/Auburn
Skip Johnson/Oklahoma
If Va ponies up we wont get any of those guys
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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05-06-2025, 12:12 PM
#131
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05-06-2025, 12:24 PM
#132
Assuming they make it this year, it will be Walter's 6th NCAA appearance in 14 seasons at Wake Forest.
I get there are recruiting difficulties there, but it sure feels like it would be an underwhelming hire when we've been talking about O'Connor for the last week.
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05-06-2025, 12:41 PM
#133
Do you guys think interviews have begun? Our pastor told me his personal friend, Coggin has already interviewed. A pastor can't lie, especially in church?***
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05-06-2025, 12:43 PM
#134

Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Do you guys think interviews have begun? Our pastor told me his personal friend, Coggin has already interviewed. A pastor can't lie, especially in church?***
I'm sure we've had talks with agents and maybe even a couple of assts. I highly doubt though that we have sat down with a sitting P4 HC as of yet, unless we sat down with Mingione this past weekend.
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05-06-2025, 12:48 PM
#135

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Assuming they make it this year, it will be Walter's 6th NCAA appearance in 14 seasons at Wake Forest.
I get there are recruiting difficulties there, but it sure feels like it would be an underwhelming hire when we've been talking about O'Connor for the last week.
This is why these things are so frustrating, our people so easily get locked in on the first guy mentioned out of the desire for our program to succeed. And when we do make a hire that's not that guy no matter what his qualifications they feel the guy is a let down. This puts the guy behind the 8 ball from the jump. Wake is 12-12 in the ACC and 32-16 overall. Currently a 2 seed projection all at a school with less than 5000 students. He may be a great hire if its him, and he may be the one if he's big enough for the job, because as far as college baseball goes our job is a monster.
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05-06-2025, 12:53 PM
#136

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
This is why these things are so frustrating, our people so easily get locked in on the first guy mentioned out of the desire for our program to succeed. And when we do make a hire that's not that guy no matter what his qualifications they feel the guy is a let down. This puts the guy behind the 8 ball from the jump. Wake is 12-12 in the ACC and 32-16 overall. Currently a 2 seed projection all at a school with less than 5000 students. He may be a great hire if its him, and he may be the one if he's big enough for the job, because as far as college baseball goes our job is a monster.
I think I had even said that in one of the previous threads. It's when O'Conner's name first got mentioned. I could already see people getting latched on to THAT being the hire.
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05-06-2025, 01:48 PM
#137

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
This is why these things are so frustrating, our people so easily get locked in on the first guy mentioned out of the desire for our program to succeed. And when we do make a hire that's not that guy no matter what his qualifications they feel the guy is a let down. This puts the guy behind the 8 ball from the jump. Wake is 12-12 in the ACC and 32-16 overall. Currently a 2 seed projection all at a school with less than 5000 students. He may be a great hire if its him, and he may be the one if he's big enough for the job, because as far as college baseball goes our job is a monster.
I think his record at Wake Forest (below .500 in career ACC games, missed more Regionals than made them) would still be underwhelming even if O'Connor's name had never been mentioned.
If he's the guy, I'll give him a chance and maybe he'll turn out to be great, but we absolutely should be aiming higher as one of the few schools that cares about having an elite baseball program.
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05-06-2025, 02:18 PM
#138

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
I think his record at Wake Forest (below .500 in career ACC games, missed more Regionals than made them) would still be underwhelming even if O'Connor's name had never been mentioned.
If he's the guy, I'll give him a chance and maybe he'll turn out to be great, but we absolutely should be aiming higher as one of the few schools that cares about having an elite baseball program.
I understand where you are coming from, that makes sense on the surface. What did he take over, what are his recourses, how long did it take him to build the program, etc. I'm sure that there is more to it than just a cursory look at records. Anyway this dance started before Lemonis was let go, if we don't get in each others way and don't have to many dick measuring contest thru this we may end up with the right guy. I hope so this is a critical hire for the program at a critical time.
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05-06-2025, 05:04 PM
#139

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
He's definitely calling Virginia's bluff. We'll see if they blink.
That said, this search is just beginning. It may not be O'Conner. If you asked me for a guess my guess is it won't be him.
At the same time I could see a situation where Virginia says we're focusing on football, basketball and lacrosse which I think is pretty big there- similar to baseball at MSU. And if O'Conner doesn't have resources there anymore he knows that their program is done and he is done. If that happens I could totally see him coming to MSU where he has more resources and commitment.
We're just in the midst of things happening and it's not going to be settled until the CWS IMO.
This search is not just beginning. This has been in motion for almost a year.
Again - get your mind off O'Connor. The fact he was mentioned so quickly should immediately put him low in odds to get the job. Kendall is the Bert Stare of Twitter until it is a done deal. He makes his money by making others money.
Last edited by Cowbell; 05-06-2025 at 05:06 PM.
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05-06-2025, 05:07 PM
#140

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I'm sure we've had talks with agents and maybe even a couple of assts. I highly doubt though that we have sat down with a sitting P4 HC as of yet, unless we sat down with Mingione this past weekend.
Trust me when I tell you this has been in motion for a while...
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