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    Is the ACC coach Erik Bakich, or is it Link Jarrett? I haven't heard an update from Kendall Rogers on this yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Is the ACC coach Erik Bakich, or is it Link Jarrett? I haven't heard an update from Kendall Rogers on this yet.
    And you won't. Kendall is friends with all these guys so he's not going to cloud their season. It's Bakich though. FSU has given Link everything he asked for

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    And you won't. Kendall is friends with all these guys so he's not going to cloud their season. It's Bakich though. FSU has given Link everything he asked for
    I know that the Next Level Baseball guy had messaged me this time last year that he felt like MSU could get Link. I disagreed with him, but his comment to me was that FSU was promising things they wouldn't deliver on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    I know that the Next Level Baseball guy had messaged me this time last year that he felt like MSU could get Link. I disagreed with him, but his comment to me was that FSU was promising things they wouldn't deliver on.
    And then basketball and football went in the can so they're a little more amiable to give Link some more of what we want. If Link Jarrett was remotely available then you could trash all the other candidates. He'd blow every one of them out of the water. But Link will put up with a lot because FSU is his alma mater.

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    Bakich would be the Nick saban equivalent of baseball hires. If we were to pull that miracle off with that buyout, means some booster stepped up

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    Quote Originally Posted by civildawg View Post
    Bakich would be the Nick saban equivalent of baseball hires. If we were to pull that miracle off with that buyout, means some booster stepped up
    The closest Saban equivalent would probably be O'Sullivan. Hiring Bakich would be like hiring Lincoln Riley or Brian Kelly. It would absolutely be a hell of a pull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    and he may have- but a pro approach is being fostered now. We are about to go thru a big change in baseball if these guys get their way.

    As I was told- "Will Clark being there a few times had a purpose"
    What would a pro approach entail?
    Is that involving a GM , and then a coach/manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    What would a pro approach entail?
    Is that involving a GM , and then a coach/manager?
    In today's game it would be a GM that would focus on player acquisition and retention. High school and portal and JUCO. Someone or someone's that are evaluating other players to potentially acquire later. Probably someone with some scouting connections.

    But also player development. Some schools have a pitching specialist and a hitting specialist. They aren't on the field staff but basically would do things in the pitching lab to try to help maximize results. As I have said we need to update our tech on the hitting side a bit I have heard so basically like a hitting lab as well.

    May have a catching analyst depending on staff make up to assist with catchers and maybe one for baserunning. There are a lot of ways we can go with this.

    Basically the off the field analyst staff would work with the on field staff and the on the field staff would implement instruction based on the findings from the labs/tech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    In today's game it would be a GM that would focus on player acquisition and retention. High school and portal and JUCO. Someone or someone's that are evaluating other players to potentially acquire later. Probably someone with some scouting connections.

    But also player development. Some schools have a pitching specialist and a hitting specialist. They aren't on the field staff but basically would do things in the pitching lab to try to help maximize results. As I have said we need to update our tech on the hitting side a bit I have heard so basically like a hitting lab as well.

    May have a catching analyst depending on staff make up to assist with catchers and maybe one for baserunning. There are a lot of ways we can go with this.

    Basically the off the field analyst staff would work with the on field staff and the on the field staff would implement instruction based on the findings from the labs/tech.

    We need multiple additions to the player development staff, IMO. We have Bobby Austin over player development, and while he probably has a couple of volunteer assistants, that's not enough. We need someone who is tech savvy that runs player development and someone who understands how to utilize biomechanics, player tracking data, pitch data, and swing data to help aid the director of player development. We also need someone separate from player development who does nothing but look at analytics and trends to help with our own in game strategy as well as advanced scouting opponents.

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    Another funding idea


    Why can?t we get sponsorship from someone like Coca Cola to put a huge lit up Coke bottle in the outfield ?

    Much like at SF Giants park?

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    A few things we DON?T need to do are:

    1. Have biomechanists and nerd analysts start changing swings based on some perfect computer based model or ?launch angle? etc.

    Even with specific player anthropometric data, we can?t measure the nervous system or fiber makeup or elasticity accurately enough to change swings, etc.

    Just tweak them. No over hauls, which points to below.

    2. Recruit or sign people who need a swing overhaul.

    Use data for tweaks and approach. Ex. Show someone like Hines how his run production etc. will increase if he can hit opposite field some. He will then be able to get more pitches that he can drive over the fence.

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    That?s not what is happening with GPS tracked swing analysis. They don?t look to make massive swing changes. There are certain data points they look for to determine whether someone has some untapped power potential, and they make those adjustments. Some players generate good EVs but hit the ball on the ground too much. Nolan Stevens is currently one of those. With some tech aided swing changes, he may be able to tap into the considerable raw power he has by hitting the ball in the air more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    That?s not what is happening with GPS tracked swing analysis. They don?t look to make massive swing changes. There are certain data points they look for to determine whether someone has some untapped power potential, and they make those adjustments. Some players generate good EVs but hit the ball on the ground too much. Nolan Stevens is currently one of those. With some tech aided swing changes, he may be able to tap into the considerable raw power he has by hitting the ball in the air more.
    Good. Then a coach has to take over and cue the player to get the proper outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thick View Post
    Spoke to a player?s dad today. He said the players are relieved, relaxed, and somewhat excited about playing the remainder of the season with no Lemonis. He didn?t have time to give me the deep dive, all he said was ?it was bad?.
    Tells you Selmon made the right call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I got the info from someone not Steve. He just confirmed it so I know if he had it then it is damn solid because it is not just rumor.
    Or he hears it from the same source.... that guy confirming anything not factual discredits it

    On multiple occasions in the last few years, I have seen him use this board for information that he then regurgitates for gospel. Bert Stare made him look like an idiot.

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    Clemson blew a 9th inning lead vs Florida State and lost in extras.

    The setup man was cruising and then the closer was tasked with a 2 inning save. Crash.

    Clemson also blundered on the base pads, bad.

    Even had a man on 2nd base and then worked to bunt him over. 2nd base is already scoring position. Sucks. Gave away a key at bat and the bunt failed.

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    After listening to Kendall Rogers on Super Talk discuss this, I have a feeling the pecking order for Mississippi State is probably:
    1. Brian O'Connor/Virginia
    2. Wes Johnson/Georgia
    3. Butch Thompson/Auburn
    4. Nick Mingione/Kentucky
    5. Rob Vaughn/Alabama
    6. Chris Pollard/Duke
    7. Skip Johnson/Oklahoma
    8. Skylar Meade/Troy
    9. Will Coggin/Georgia*
    10. Josh Elander/Tennessee*
    11. Noah Cain/Texas*

    There are other names floated out there like Erik Bakich, Dan Fitzgerald, and Steve Sabins, but Kendall didn't mention any of them. He also stated that he didn't think this would be a hiring that comes out of left field like Chris Lemonis did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    After listening to Kendall Rogers on Super Talk discuss this, I have a feeling the pecking order for Mississippi State is probably:
    1. Brian O'Connor/Virginia
    2. Wes Johnson/Georgia
    3. Butch Thompson/Auburn
    4. Nick Mingione/Kentucky
    5. Rob Vaughn/Alabama
    6. Chris Pollard/Duke
    7. Skip Johnson/Oklahoma
    8. Skylar Meade/Troy
    9. Will Coggin/Georgia*
    10. Josh Elander/Tennessee*
    11. Noah Cain/Texas*

    There are other names floated out there like Erik Bakich, Dan Fitzgerald, and Steve Sabins, but Kendall didn't mention any of them. He also stated that he didn't think this would be a hiring that comes out of left field like Chris Lemonis did.
    Always proceed with caution with Kendall. Sometimes he has an agenda to promote certain guys. Like Nolan Cain. He has gotten roasted for floating Cliff Godwin's name out so many times that he has actually stopped.

    O'Conner looking around is not a secret. He knows that from his A&M days. But that's the only reason he probably is aware of that. The rest of those guys are mostly guys who have ties to MSU or Oklahoma and that is not a priority in this search. In other words he is guessing based on association.

    Elander is floating his name out because he is ready for a head coaching position. It's a lot more likely he ends up going to place where the guy we hired used to coach than it is that he ends up here. I have a feeling we would offer Coggin the job before Elander if it even goes that far which I doubt it will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    We need multiple additions to the player development staff, IMO. We have Bobby Austin over player development, and while he probably has a couple of volunteer assistants, that's not enough. We need someone who is tech savvy that runs player development and someone who understands how to utilize biomechanics, player tracking data, pitch data, and swing data to help aid the director of player development. We also need someone separate from player development who does nothing but look at analytics and trends to help with our own in game strategy as well as advanced scouting opponents.
    I don't think Bobby has that much help honestly and that's part of the problem. It's pretty amazing how much data he has to put together. I wouldn't be surprised if he is retained if for no other reason we need to upgrade that department and we need all the manpower we can get.

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