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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    You can move Jarrett into the 0% category as well. 1A or 1B for me would be BOC and Bakich. Either one is an absolute grand slam hire.
    Probably so but you at least kick the tires whereas you don't even pick up the phone on Heefner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medic601 View Post
    It seems like every time I read names and go do deep research on who I like, I get my hopes up and feelings hurt when we end up with some JV coach from the North Jackson Youth Baseball.

    With that being said, why is everyone big on Pollard? His winning percentage at Duke is worse than Lemonis had here. Sure, Duke is a decent program but he hasn?t done THAT much to make him elite.

    I think O?Conner would be a solid pick - at 53, we could get 10ish years out of him. O?Sullivan would be a disaster. He is a total troll. Wes Johnson already destroyed a few seasons for us, why would you want him back? Heefner and his convictions? this is us hiring him, not him hiring us. Play by what we want or don?t take our job.

    And no, I?m not a big poster or baseball mind but just my opinion as a big fan.
    I mean you can make a case for why all of those guys would be successful here. You can also make a case for why all of those guys would be risky hires. Sounds like you aren?t going to be happy regardless of who we hire

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG View Post
    I would be shocked if Heefner comes here. I believe we have the same chance if not better of getting Vitello (although I think that chance is 1% Heefner and 2% Vitello). Heefner has been there for almost 20 years and has never moved while consistently winning. I think the religion factor is keeping him in place. Jarrett would be my #1 choice, but why would he leave a storied baseball program that is his alma mater? O'Connor would be a bit more realistic but still a stretch as he has been comfy at UVA. I think we get Elander or Coggin if we go assistant route. Head coaching route probably Mingione or Pollard or Sabins.
    Vitello is 0%. He is the highest paid HC in the country. We cant afford Vitello. It would take 4-4.5MM per year to hire him if he would even agree. Thats not happening.
    Heefner- the hardcore Baptist- is going to leave to go coach at a place famous for its drinking and cooking during ballgames?? Good luck on that one as well.

    Now a couple of good coaches at places that arent willing to spend much money in this NIL Era- yes. That could happen and benefit us. That's our best chance at landing a big fish. If we cant get lucky there- then it's either lower P4/G5/Top Asst
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    In regards to Heefner I don?t think religion or drinking would be deciding factors - data points sure

    His boys being able to play for him (he still had a 2025 and 2027 on the way)

    At DBU, they will play a role and have a roster spot.

    Any other place, that may not be able to be the case

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    Coggin is from Booneville......isn't Keenum from the same area?
    I only say it in fun, but what is in the water up there.

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    One thing that concerns me about Pollard. He's never coached anywhere outside the State of North Carolina. He was an assistant at Davidson for 2 seasons before becoming the head coach at D2 Pfeiffer. He went from Pfeiffer to App State to Duke. All in North Carolina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    Coggin is from Booneville......isn't Keenum from the same area?
    I only say it in fun, but what is in the water up there.
    His dad was the coach at Booneville high school back when I played high school ball.

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    The Bakich buyout is going to be a problem so I'll be surprised there. We're going to find out what kind of money/swing baseball boosters carry though.
    Last edited by Cooterpoot; 05-01-2025 at 12:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjoelner34 View Post
    0% chance Heefner would come here so I'll start my list with a 1% chance guy and go from there.
    1. Jarrett
    2. O'Connor
    3. Bakich
    4. Elander
    Just my Opinion:

    1. Jarrett - Not possible, unless he is a Florida State graduate and former player that is also a secret MSU fan.
    2. O'Connor - He is my #1
    3. Bakich - Not possible, has a similar job and pay, unless he just wants to move
    4. Elander - Getting a Hitting Coach that works for Hitting Coach, a Recruiting Coordinator that works for a Recruiting Coordinator, nah

    Erik Bakich, Clemson's baseball coach, earns $1.275 million in the 2024-25 season. His new contract extends through 2030 and includes a final-year salary of $1.525 million. His salary will increase by $50,000 each season, as detailed in his six-year, $8.4 million deal.

    Link Jarrett would make $6.5 million over the seven-year contract agreement or an average of around $929,000 per season. $1,575,000 the final season of the new deal. - He is set to make an average of $1.275 million dollars per season over the life of the contract and a total value of $8.925 million dollars. He could use a good season and Kendall Rodgers to get himself a raise.

    Just a question, Josh Elander makes $194K for Vitello. Why not offer him $380K to be Justin Parker's hitting coach and recruiting coordinator? Even $425K. Would he not be interested? Then Elander is still doing the job he does in Tennessee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Vitello is 0%. He is the highest paid HC in the country. We cant afford Vitello. It would take 4-4.5MM per year to hire him if he would even agree. Thats not happening.
    Heefner- the hardcore Baptist- is going to leave to go coach at a place famous for its drinking and cooking during ballgames?? Good luck on that one as well.

    Now a couple of good coaches at places that arent willing to spend much money in this NIL Era- yes. That could happen and benefit us. That's our best chance at landing a big fish. If we cant get lucky there- then it's either lower P4/G5/Top Asst
    I think y'all are missing on what a true Christian Baptist's calling is. Doctors don't treat the well. They treat the sick. Not only would the Lounge at Dudy Noble Field be a great Mission Field for Heefner, many of those drinkers and cookers are probably devout Baptists anyway. And the rest are either Methodist, Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, Pentecostal, Hindu, Buddhist, 7th Day Adventist, and any number of other denominations that would be ripe for conversion to the True Denomination which is Southern Baptist!😎😎😎😎

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    Spoke to a player?s dad today. He said the players are relieved, relaxed, and somewhat excited about playing the remainder of the season with no Lemonis. He didn?t have time to give me the deep dive, all he said was ?it was bad?.

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    https://x.com/CaptGIlliam/status/1917998450030809516

    Former Kentucky player on Will Coggin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thick View Post
    Spoke to a player?s dad today. He said the players are relieved, relaxed, and somewhat excited about playing the remainder of the season with no Lemonis. He didn?t have time to give me the deep dive, all he said was ?it was bad?.
    I've heard a few inklings of that, and it's why i posited in another thread that i thought the team might catch fire now. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thick View Post
    Spoke to a player?s dad today. He said the players are relieved, relaxed, and somewhat excited about playing the remainder of the season with no Lemonis. He didn?t have time to give me the deep dive, all he said was ?it was bad?.
    Highfill dad had some X comments that have since been deleted

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandjunky View Post
    Highfill dad had some X comments that have since been deleted
    If it's the ones about the team playing more relaxed I didn't think they were that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    https://x.com/CaptGIlliam/status/1917998450030809516

    Former Kentucky player on Will Coggin.
    You read that thread, and it?s hard to not get excited. Here?s my opinion on the new coach?we need stability within the program from the top with a coach that has a fire in their belly not just to compete at a high level, but to win at a high level. Our next HC needs to be someone who recruits at a high level (duh), but WANTS to be at MSU! I know we want a sitting HC, and I get it. We?ve gone after those guys, but wives have been an issue. Coggins is single right? I?m kind of leaning to this guy, bc he?s a hard ass and highly passionate about the game and about MSU! We need a guy that can put us into a position where we are in the top tier SEC year in and year out which means we will always be in the CWS conversation! The big question is can he put together a great staff. Start flaming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thick View Post
    You read that thread, and it?s hard to not get excited. Here?s my opinion on the new coach?we need stability within the program from the top with a coach that has a fire in their belly not just to compete at a high level, but to win at a high level. Our next HC needs to be someone who recruits at a high level (duh), but WANTS to be at MSU! I know we want a sitting HC, and I get it. We?ve gone after those guys, but wives have been an issue. Coggins is single right? I?m kind of leaning to this guy, bc he?s a hard ass and highly passionate about the game and about MSU! We need a guy that can put us into a position where we are in the top tier SEC year in and year out which means we will always be in the CWS conversation! The big question is can he put together a great staff. Start flaming!
    +1

    I?m with you

    I?m

    1) O?Conner
    2) Coggins

    In fairness I don?t know a lot about the coaches. This is off what I read here and other places.

    I would think the #1 thing needs is talent evaluator.

    Everyone says Coggin is elite at that.

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    I would be on board with Coggins or O’Conner. I would be interested in the Troy coach too. I’m not sure about anything else beyond that.

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    ?but, but he was a prick to some fans 8 years ago and he defended his players in Starkville last year when Johnny Long lost his mind.**

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    I think y'all are missing on what a true Christian Baptist's calling is. Doctors don't treat the well. They treat the sick. Not only would the Lounge at Dudy Noble Field be a great Mission Field for Heefner, many of those drinkers and cookers are probably devout Baptists anyway. And the rest are either Methodist, Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, Pentecostal, Hindu, Buddhist, 7th Day Adventist, and any number of other denominations that would be ripe for conversion to the True Denomination which is Southern Baptist!��������
    I mean, this is true.

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