Realistic Candidates for HC

[Pinto]

I'd like to know what some of our MLB guys think about who should be the next HC. Since we have been missing the Mangum-type leadership, maybe his opinion should carry some weight.

A large group of former players are backing Coggin and I do too. He gets MSU, he?s an intense bastard, and he wants to win so bad that he will kill himself trying. He made KY and is now the power behind UGA. Plus he is young and wants to build a dominant power for years to come at MSU.

[Cooterpoot]

A large group of former players are backing Coggin and I do too. He gets MSU, he?s an intense bastard, and he wants to win so bad that he will kill himself trying. He made KY and is now the power behind UGA. Plus he is young and wants to build a dominant power for years to come at MSU.

That group isn't nearly as large as you think. We'd have to miss on everybody for Coggin to get a look.

[Coursesuper]

That group isn't nearly as large as you think. We'd have to miss on everybody for Coggin to get a look.

There are more influential ones that are not in that corner.

[Coach34]

well, considering we put out the word that were are looking to hire a HC we gonna have to miss on some people before Coggin or Elander get a shot

[bulldogcountry1]

A large group of former players are backing Coggin and I do too. He gets MSU, he?s an intense bastard, and he wants to win so bad that he will kill himself trying. He made KY and is now the power behind UGA. Plus he is young and wants to build a dominant power for years to come at MSU.

Since several posters have claimed to know negative things about Coggin, but none have provided any actual examples, he's my pick. I feel like he's going to be a big name before long, and he might as well be at State. He's married to the game, so we don't have to worry about his wife liking Starkville.

The biggest worry would be how he handles the diplomatic part of being a HC, but I think that whole thing needs to be recalibrated at State.

[KB21]

Since several posters have claimed to know negative things about Coggin, but none have provided any actual examples, he's my pick. I feel like he's going to be a big name before long, and he might as well be at State. He's married to the game, so we don't have to worry about his wife liking Starkville.

The biggest worry would be how he handles the diplomatic part of being a HC, but I think that whole thing needs to be recalibrated at State.

Yep. Will is one of the best player evaluators in college baseball. He's very proficient at swing development as a hitting coach. He was our catchers coach when he was here, and he also worked with the hitters. He's been described as a baseball psychopath.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Yep. Will is one of the best player evaluators in college baseball. He's very proficient at swing development as a hitting coach. He was our catchers coach when he was here, and he also worked with the hitters. He's been described as a baseball psychopath.

Baseball Psychopath

Is Vitello a Baseball Psycho?

[KB21]

Baseball Psychopath

Is Vitello a Baseball Psycho?

Yes

[Cooterpoot]

Since several posters have claimed to know negative things about Coggin, but none have provided any actual examples, he's my pick. I feel like he's going to be a big name before long, and he might as well be at State. He's married to the game, so we don't have to worry about his wife liking Starkville.

The biggest worry would be how he handles the diplomatic part of being a HC, but I think that whole thing needs to be recalibrated at State.

He pissed off people with money and is an asshat. Plus, no HC experience and that's a priority. He's the last resort. If it all goes bad, he's still out there.
My question would be: Why do people claim we're elite then say a guy with no HC experience is the answer? Is it because of Lemonhead? Vitello?
He's not a better hire than a lot of the guys we're on is all. I've heard our fans, me included, ask why we have to be the training grounds for every new HC. How about we not do it?

[KB21]

He pissed off people with money and is an asshat. Plus, no HC experience and that's a priority. He's the last resort. If it all goes bad, he's still out there.
My question would be: Why do people claim we're elite then say a guy with no HC experience is the answer?

Because established head coaches who are game changes don't tend to make moves, no matter how elite the program is that is looking at them. I mean, Chris Pollard and Mark Wasikowski are good coaches. Are they coaches that will get Mississippi State back into a position where they can compete with what Tony Vitello is doing at Tennessee, what Jim Schlossnagle is doing at Texas, and what Dave Van Horn has been doing at Arkansas? South Carolina has gone the established head coach route the last two times the job was open with Mark Kingston and now Paul Manieri. Look where that's gotten them while Tennessee is hiring an assistant in Tony Vitello. Tennessee had established head coach Dave Serrano prior to Vitello.

[Santiago]

Since several posters have claimed to know negative things about Coggin, but none have provided any actual examples, he's my pick. I feel like he's going to be a big name before long, and he might as well be at State. He's married to the game, so we don't have to worry about his wife liking Starkville.

The biggest worry would be how he handles the diplomatic part of being a HC, but I think that whole thing needs to be recalibrated at State.

I had heard last season in that heated game with Georgia , he was cussing Lemonis from across the dugouts. After the game he got into it with an MSU fan and had to be restrained.
Some may call it negative and others here may high five him.
But as HC , you can have fire but reign it in some.

[Pancho]

did lemonis need a cussing? was the fan an ass hat with a loud mouth, most likely. I will hang up and listen to what transpires over the next couple months

[Coach34]

I'm pretty sure we have all cussed Lemonis

[KOdawg1]

Yeah Coggin being a prick isn't the turn off some people think it should be.

I prefer my coaches to be pricks.

[Cooterpoot]

Because established head coaches who are game changes don't tend to make moves, no matter how elite the program is that is looking at them. I mean, Chris Pollard and Mark Wasikowski are good coaches. Are they coaches that will get Mississippi State back into a position where they can compete with what Tony Vitello is doing at Tennessee, what Jim Schlossnagle is doing at Texas, and what Dave Van Horn has been doing at Arkansas? South Carolina has gone the established head coach route the last two times the job was open with Mark Kingston and now Paul Manieri. Look where that's gotten them while Tennessee is hiring an assistant in Tony Vitello. Tennessee had established head coach Dave Serrano prior to Vitello.

Typical State fans...Still no reason he should be near the top of the list. I can give you more failures than you can give success stories of assistants. For every Vitello, there are 5 Canz. Give me the top guys that are proven. Proven means successful HC. You hire Coggin, you lose a huge part of the bankroll too. Good luck winning without that. If we miss on everybody, Coggin would be my nuclear option.

[Turfdawg67]

I'm starting to like this Coggin fella. The positives are out weighing the negatives. Give me an ambitious ahole that lives and breathes baseball and wants to build a dynasty!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah Coggin being a prick isn't the turn off some people think it should be.

I prefer my coaches to be pricks.

Dan Mullen-MASSIVE prick
John Cohen-EXTREME prick

[KOdawg1]

Dan Mullen-MASSIVE prick
John Cohen-EXTREME prick

Joe Moorhead- really nice guy

[Coursesuper]

Typical State fans...Still no reason he should be near the top of the list. I can give you more failures than you can give success stories of assistants. For every Vitello, there are 5 Canz. Give me the top guys that are proven. Proven means successful HC. You hire Coggin, you lose a huge part of the bankroll too. Good luck winning without that. If we miss on everybody, Coggin would be my nuclear option.

Correct, $$$ will make or break the program. I still can’t comprehend why we have such a hard time with this concept.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Joe Moorhead- really nice guy

I wasn't going to go in on ole Joe again and beat that dead horse even more.

Cannizarro was also a prick as well but in like a my way is better and I'm going to show you instead of just tell you.

Mullen was a prick because he would tell you he was better than you and then showed it. I mean this is the same guy that held an all hands athletic dept staff meeting on the day he was hired and called everyone losers. Paraphrasing a bit but his quote went something like, "I'm a 17 winner and you are 17 losers. I don't accept losers so if you're a loser then you can get the 17 out of here"

Cohen was a prick in the same way that Mullen was except Mullen actually liked his inner circle and wanted to be liked by the fans. Cohen hated everyone. I will say that part of that stemmed from the Polk/Raffo/Cohen thing and he was insulted that some of our fans considered him on the same level as Raffo.