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Originally Posted by
MStateDawg
Has he had bad luck for 4 years? Because that's how long he's been here and he's done virtually nothing versus SEC pitching:
Conference stats only:
2022: .154 (2 for 13 with 0 RBIs)
2023: .077 (1 for 13 with 0 RBIs)
2024: .259 (14 for 54 with 5 RBIs)
2025: .053 (1 for 19 with 1 RBI)
Career: .181 (18 for 99 with 6 RBIs)
He's fine for depth on a 40 man roster and being an occasional pinch hitter, but he has no business starting in critical games over legitimate SEC players.
So you're saying the only time he got a steady amount of AB's against SEC pitching he hit .260? Ok. Trout is 12/48 against SEC pitching for a .250 average but we let him hit every game
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Originally Posted by
KB21
I'm inclined to agree with this. Downs has gone from hitting the ball really well to not even making quality contact when he does make contact. Whereas Reed Stallman tags the ball every single time he makes contact, and Reed has a better eye at the plate. He's going to get on base more. Stallman and Stevens should not sit going forward.
Stallman is 5/27 against SEC pitching. .185
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Lemonis's poor non conf scheduling coming back to haunt him and us.
Q4 games by school:
UPig 17-1
Georgia 14-0
Texas 10-0
Tennessee 13-0
LSU 19-1
Mississippi 10-0
Candy 10-0
Bama 13-1
Auburn 9-2
Oklahoma 13-0
Florida 13-0
Kentucky 9-2
SC 14-0
State 12-0
Last edited by Coach34; 04-07-2025 at 11:17 AM.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Stallman is 5/27 against SEC pitching. .185
He's also had a lot of bad luck with a .235 BABIP. While I don't have access to his exit velocity data from Trackman, it's obvious that he hits the ball hard. When his BABIP has positive regression, his counting stats will improve dramatically.
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I agree he needs to play- I'm just saying platooning them is probably the best road forward
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Lemonis's poor non conf scheduling coming back to haunt him and us.
Lemonis having pitcher tryouts against Troy and Arizona are what is haunting us.
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SEC SOS for 2025:
UPig- 31
Georgia- 40
Texas- 28
Tenn- 60
LSU- 101
Mississippi- 16
Candy- 14
Bama- 42
Auburn- 11
Oklahoma- 44
Florida- 8
Kentucky- 49
SC- 12
State- 38
Last edited by Coach34; 04-07-2025 at 11:16 AM.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Lemonis having pitcher tryouts against Troy and Arizona are what is haunting us.
That and two blown leads against Texas, 5 errors against OU, a blown lead in Game 1 against LSU, and not being able to hit in Game 2 against LSU. Oh and then errors against South Carolina that cost us a sweep.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Lemonis having pitcher tryouts against Troy and Arizona are what is haunting us.
We are 1-11 vs Q1
That is our problem
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Trout is 12/48 against SEC pitching for a .250 average but we let him hit every game
I'm not a big fan of his either but I don't know that we really have a better option for CF. We definitely have better options than Downs starting over Stevens.
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Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
And that should get him fired.
Why? Cholk 2 only exceeded 14 league wins 2 times in 8 years.
Lemons has 2 of the 3 twenty SEC win seasons in the last 35 seasons.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
That and two blown leads against Texas, 5 errors against OU, a blown lead in Game 1 against LSU, and not being able to hit in Game 2 against LSU. Oh and then errors against South Carolina that cost us a sweep.
There's unfortunately been a lot of swing games in the SEC slate, none of which have gone our way.
Texas Series:
Game 1: Had a 2 run leading going into the 7th, lost by 1
Game 2: Tied going into the 7th (final inning), lost by 2
Game 3: Down by 1 going into the 7th (final inning), lost by 3
Oklahoma Series:
Game 2: Gave up 6 earned runs and lost 13-11. (Barf)
LSU Series:
Game 2: Pico throws a gem and we lose 2-1
We've had some incredibly frustrating loses thus far.
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Originally Posted by
MStateDawg
There's unfortunately been a lot of swing games in the SEC slate, none of which have gone our way.
Texas Series:
Game 1: Had a 2 run leading going into the 7th, lost by 1
Game 2: Tied going into the 7th (final inning), lost by 2
Game 3: Down by 1 going into the 7th (final inning), lost by 3
Oklahoma Series:
Game 2: Gave up 6 earned runs and lost 13-11. (Barf)
LSU Series:
Game 2: Pico throws a gem and we lose 2-1
We've had some incredibly frustrating loses thus far.
Plus, the things we do or don't do that have cost us in those games have been consistent over the past four years. Whether it is a base running error, not being able to field the ball or make the throw when the game is in the balance, giving away at bats, or leaving a pitcher in too long, these have been consistent issues over the past four years.
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Originally Posted by
MStateDawg
I'm not a big fan of his either but I don't know that we really have a better option for CF. We definitely have better options than Downs starting over Stevens.
Reeves was mentioned as a possibility there. He has shown to be a solid bat. Get him some work and time there
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In a sport where bad teams beat good teams all the time, we've struggled to beat good teams.
Our problem isn't losing the Texas or LSU series. It's getting swept. Take 1 game in each of those series and we're 5-7 right now and the outlook on this season is completely different.
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Originally Posted by
MStateDawg
There's unfortunately been a lot of swing games in the SEC slate, none of which have gone our way.
Texas Series:
Game 1: Had a 2 run leading going into the 7th, lost by 1
Game 2: Tied going into the 7th (final inning), lost by 2
Game 3: Down by 1 going into the 7th (final inning), lost by 3
Oklahoma Series:
Game 2: Gave up 6 earned runs and lost 13-11. (Barf)
LSU Series:
Game 2: Pico throws a gem and we lose 2-1
We've had some incredibly frustrating loses thus far.
The hallmark of poorly coached teams, IMO. Same issues we had last year, when you could make the exact same post about MANY SEC games. Yet we found a way to lose all of them, either through lack of bullpen production, lack of timely hitting with RISP, or bad fielding.
Same sh!t, different year. Losing to every team with a pulse and limping into an NCAA Regional to get bounced in the Sunday game isn't going to cut it.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
SEC SOS for 2025:
UPig- 31
Georgia- 40
Texas- 28
Tenn- 60
LSU- 101
Mississippi- 16
Candy- 14
Bama- 42
Auburn- 11
Oklahoma- 44
Florida- 8
Kentucky- 49
SC- 12
State- 38
That's going to plummet the next month.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
Plus, the things we do or don't do that have cost us in those games have been consistent over the past four years. Whether it is a base running error, not being able to field the ball or make the throw when the game is in the balance, giving away at bats, or leaving a pitcher in too long, these have been consistent issues over the past four years.
Which is why it?s time for Lemonis to go. We?re lacking consistency in every area. When we pitch well we don?t hit well. When we hit well we don?t pitch well. When we pitch and hit well we give up runs on errors. This team rarely puts a complete game together. And there?s nothing that tells me future Lemonis teams are going to be any different.
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Gotta sweep somebody to get back in it mathematically.
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Originally Posted by
Schultzy
Gotta sweep somebody to get back in it mathematically.
Get to 12-15 at the end and sweep Mizzou we are easily in. Need to position ourselves to where if we lose a game to Mizzou it doesnt cut our throat
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