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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
18-12, This was my super-fan maroon prediction when I thought we had something more than just Pico ready to compete. So 14-16 is about where MSU ends up, with original assumptions. That's with winning 6 of the last 7 series. Key is Evan Siary being #2 and winning. Ligon has to be replaced as #3. But Pruitt and Davis are not the answer. In 2024, MSU needed a good transfer Starter rather badly last summer. Arkansas got Zack Root and the Bettlejuice kid. Completely whiffed on transfer Starter.
But that should really open some eyes after the year we had in 2024 and Parker getting all the love in baseball circles- plus the draft love our pitching staff got- and we still couldnt pull a significant arm in the portal. It's easy to blame Lemon but it's much bigger than that. Most pitchers sign for the PC- not the head coach as much. Then you get into NIL and the town atmosphere of the school. Proximity to home is bigger now than it used to be as well.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
18-12, This was my super-fan maroon prediction when I thought we had something more than just Pico ready to compete. So 14-16 is about where MSU ends up, with original assumptions. That's with winning 6 of the last 7 series. Key is Evan Siary being #2 and winning. Ligon has to be replaced as #3. But Pruitt and Davis are not the answer. In 2024, MSU needed a good transfer Starter rather badly last summer. Arkansas got Zack Root and the Bettlejuice kid. Completely whiffed on transfer Starter.
Pitching is the biggest factor to reach 14 SEC wins.
14-16 would most likely get us into a Regional as a 3, but Lemonis should still be fired if we have all this talent and a top 10 salary for him, and we still finish with a losing conference record.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
The sad thing is, the Lemonis apologists(and there's still a couple out there), will tell you this. They'll say we are young and next year is our year.
Wes Johnson would have some horses for next year:
Foster, Grant, Stone, Burns, McPherson, O'Leary, and Booth
And several experienced guys that can be developed further:
Pruitt, Black, Mannell, Loftin, and Siary
Plus some decent transfers.
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Wes Johnson is not leaving Georgia for Sville
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Wes Johnson is not leaving Georgia for Sville
WHY WOULD HE??? That is just not even in the realm of reality. And when we do finally move on it will be a free for all into the portal for this entire roster.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
WHY WOULD HE??? That is just not even in the realm of reality. And when we do finally move on it will be a free for all into the portal for this entire roster.
Yeah if we dont recover and make a Regional poachers from all over will be coming for these Freshman pitchers plus Reese and Stevens
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a shame lemo can't win with this group
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Yeah if we dont recover and make a Regional poachers from all over will be coming for these Freshman pitchers plus Reese and Stevens
Don't fool yourself, they already are.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
Don't fool yourself, they already are.
oh for sure. It's like that in every sport now. Jan and Crew have been talking to a certain PG for over 2 months now
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
WHY WOULD HE??? That is just not even in the realm of reality. And when we do finally move on it will be a free for all into the portal for this entire roster.
Because his wife hates Starkville and wanted to leave the day she got here the first time. She stayed in Dallas for the first few months he was here last time.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
oh for sure. It's like that in every sport now. Jan and Crew have been talking to a certain PG for over 2 months now
And a pretty good one at that.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
Don't fool yourself, they already are.
If Florida and Texas A&M make a coaching move, I wonder which carcass is the most attractive to pillage. Florida has more prime prospects than MSU and TAM not far behind Florida on potential 1st Round talent.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
...is not very likely. I'm going to be optimistic about our 7 remaining SEC series:
- South Carolina - let's say we take 2/3
- @ Alabama - maybe we get 1
- Florida - they're 1-8 just like us, so we ought to win 2/3 at home
- @ Auburn - again maybe 1
- Kentucky - they have a losing SEC record right now, but it's at home, so let's get 2/3
- Ole Miss - let's be super optimistic and say we take 2/3
- @ Missouri - they've had our number lately even when terrible, but let's say we get 2/3
If we do
all of that, winning each remaining home series, winning the series at Missouri, and avoiding a sweep at Alabama and Auburn, that gets us to 13-17, which gives us a chance for a Regional. Not a lock, because I project an RPI around #50 at 13-17, but at least on the table. If we can do all of that and win another game to get to 14-16, I'd feel a lot better.
No SEC team has ever gotten in at 12-18. A few (including us) have gotten in at 12-17, but never 12-18 or worse. Could that change this year? Yes - no 6-12 team had ever made the men's basketball tournament before, and 2 teams did that this year for the first time. But their metrics were a lot better than ours.
It's a yearly tradition here for some posters to be saying we won't make a Regional and usually it's a lot of overreacting, but this year, anyone saying that is probably right. The path listed above is pretty optimistic. Nothing about this season makes me confident that we can go 12-9 in the SEC from here out, and even if we do, I'm not sure we get in.
IS TOO BUY TICKETS!
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Hold up. Before we start this talk, let?s wait and see if Hunter Hines and everyone else on the team learns to hit something to the wide ass open opp field side. I have 12 year olds that can look at the field and determine there is a hole the other way and then hit it there.
After that, let?s see if we can not be a team full of dumbasses and win 2 out of 3 against an SEC team.
Pitching, catching, fielding, hitting, and for gods sake running the bases all have been shit. Straight Horse Crap.
Coaching, like, what the F are they doing? 7 out of our 9 batters have terrible approaches at the plate on any given night. We never put pressure on other teams when on the base path. We are literally anti-clutch at hitting. They had 7 months to get Hunter Hines ready for his swan song campaign. Just throw him outer half and he literally will fall down swinging at it. Mix speeds and outer half. k every time.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
If Florida and Texas A&M make a coaching move, I wonder which carcass is the most attractive to pillage. Florida has more prime prospects than MSU and TAM not far behind Florida on potential 1st Round talent.
A$M player s highly likely, Fla is wait and see, they have had major injuries in their rotation.
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Is Sullivan?s seat even warm?
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Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
Is Sullivan?s seat even warm?
Potentially, two straight losing seasons. 13-17 last year. I'm just making something up from nothing.
UF may not be as comfortable with Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, and Texas A&M leap frogging them as MSU seems to be. They may be eye-balling the Bama coach.
Hell, UF might be eye balling Wes Johnson and Wes has made crazy lateral moves before. MSU-PC to Arkansas-PC. Leaving an MLB-PC job (In-Season) to be a collegiate PC (LSU) is a move without precedent until he made the move.
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LSU paid him way more than the Twins were paying him
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Sullivan's job is in no jeopardy
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If Florida fired Kevin O'Sullivan, we should introduce him in Starkville as our new coach that afternoon.
Obviously I would pretend I never said anything negative about him, like I previous did for Ben Howland, the Dallas Cowboys, and Jeff Lebby.
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