Bottom 6 out of 16 teams in every. single. sport.

[EdwardDrayton]

OM on thir way to the Sweet 16, too. Fml...

Think there'll be a domestic violence segment in the Sweet 16 pregame??!!?? *****

[BeardoMSU]

Think there'll be a domestic violence segment in the Sweet 16 pregame??!!?? *****

[msstate7]

Meanwhile OM is a top 16 team nationally in all 3 sports. Damn, they're superior to us in all the sports

[cheewgumm]

Our athletic department is subpar at best.

All the stories on Saban are that he demanded perfection through the football program down to the cleanliness of the bathrooms in the building.

It all has to be perfect.

See our department.

- We get this big bell to ring at the stadium and it?s not bolted down and falls over - details. How does that happen? Details.

- hailstate app -couldn?t listen to basketball at the end of the year - it would link to something else - never fixed. Details.

Stuff like that is bush league but builds your culture negatively.

Our fans are defeatist as well.

When NIL comes out we could all give small amounts and be a big winner in NIL. However you mention it on message boards and the reason a is that will never work. Let?s just get big boys to give. Then we are on here bitching about why we can?t win.


We are the reason we cant win.

[EdwardDrayton]

Character is a fluid concept in the Grove. *******

[BeardoMSU]

Character is a fluid concept in the Grove. *******

Lots of fluids are "fluid" in the grove, no doubt***

[EdwardDrayton]

Lots of fluids are "fluid" in the grove, no doubt***

LOL!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Culture makes the S16. We should really stop caring about this crap. Just go win. Weird thing is no one will be talking about allegations tonight.

[EdwardDrayton]

Culture makes the S16. We should really stop caring about this crap. Just go win. Weird thing is no one will be talking about allegations tonight.

I get your point Steve. But to say Beard's situation was mere allegations is distorting the truth at a high level.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I get your point Steve. But to say Beard's situation was mere allegations is distorting the truth at a high level.

Does not matter. Was he ever convicted??? The answer is no btw. That is all that matters. It is all just allegations after that. Guess who else has allegations we are too scared to hire…..Art Briles. But damn allegations. All it is. Just BS

[EdwardDrayton]

Does not matter. Was he ever convicted??? The answer is no btw. That is all that matters. It is all just allegations after that. Guess who else has allegations we are too scared to hire…..Art Briles. But damn allegations. All it is. Just BS

The ONLY reason he was not convicted is because the victim would not testify for the prosecution. This happens a lot in domestic violence. But there's no denying the physical evidence on the scene.

[BankerDog]

Meanwhile OM is a top 16 team nationally in all 3 sports. Damn, they're superior to us in all the sports

No-they?re masters at selling their propaganda and having people believe it. Our own fans. There is more money at State than there, our alum just don?t flash or talk about it. They?d rather go unknown. Ole Miss has gotten the by in from the middle level guys whereas, as we have seen on our boards, we?d argue about what is right and wrong. And those who decide they don?t want to help the cause continue to gripe.

Until we all get on same page and start believing you can build something in Starkville (and you can. Mullen showed it, Cohen/Cann showed it, Jans and Stans showed it) we will continue to believe the news of ?poor farmers?, ?red necks?, ?can?t win?. It?s all bs that our fans believe. We can and have to do better. It starts with Mark and Zach but it goes all the way down to the last of us. We have yo end the good ole boy network that has plagued us for so long and clamoring ?attendance records? and ?feeding other teams?. I?m tired of being nice-I?m ready to start winning and competing in everything. Living in Bama and Auburn territory does that to you.

[BankerDog]

Their culture beat Bama and UT and is in the sweet 16. I?d take a S16 right now.

[Bothrops]

The strength of the SEC in hoops is the only thing keeping our fan base from the absolute pits of hell right now.

This is exactly what I feared when NIL and transfer portal crap kicked in. We don't have the brains or the dollars in our athletic program to avoid being in the cellar. And unfortunately I don't have any solutions or ideas without an influx of major funds that we just don't have.

Not good, boys. We need coaches that can do more with less. Jans is worth keeping bc we can do no better. Lemonis is a dead man rolling, and Lebby is yet to be determined but he's playing with a hand and foot tied behind his back compared to the rest of the league in football money.

I have never cared less about MSU athletics, and I doubt I'm the only one. I hate what college sports has become, and I don't see it going back to a good place, but time will tell. Does anyone have any suggestions on how State can overcome this and keep us from being dead last in all sports within a few years? I am at a loss, and those that know me know I've never been short on thoughts and suggestions for MSU sports.

This is an honest post. The NIL is taking this brand name and identity on a path to the underworld.

[EdwardDrayton]

I will not be part of a program where winning trumps character and values. I am proud of my university and always have been. If winning demands that to change in this new environment, I'm out.

[Skydawg1]

And Cohen fired Cann for texting in the dugout. Way too harsh. Should have just been handled in-house.

We would have 3 natty's with Cann by now.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I will not be part of a program where winning trumps character and values. I am proud of my university and always have been. If winning demands that to change in this new environment, I'm out.

Cool. Dont let the door hit ya where split ya.

[BankerDog]

I will not be part of a program where winning trumps character and values. I am proud of my university and always have been. If winning demands that to change in this new environment, I'm out.

What were your thoughts on Luke Hancock then?

[EdwardDrayton]

Cool. Dont let the door hit ya where split ya.

Yeah well, until you're the one in charge. Until then, you're merely an outlier with a minority opinion. But thanks for playing.

[EdwardDrayton]

And Cohen fired Cann for texting in the dugout. Way too harsh. Should have just been handled in-house.

We would have 3 natty's with Cann by now.

Cohen did what good leaders do. Apply consequences for poor behavior.