NIL is creating parity

[Coach34]

Every "have not" fanbase in the Power Four loves the NIL and the portal ... except us.

Why is that?

Because of players like Dazmin James at UPig. Didnt do shit all season at UPig- gets a chance in the bowl game and catches 3 balls for 137 yards. Instead of appreciating the start and being one of UPig's guys next season- he is entering the portal to try and get some extra cash from somewhere else.

State will never keep breakout players or any significant talent. They will move on to the blue blood higher bidder once they show something playing for us.

[Todd4State]

Remember when he was a HC candidate for us, lol?

Would have been better than Arnett and Barbay.

[Todd4State]

Because of players like Dazmin James at UPig. Didnt do shit all season at UPig- gets a chance in the bowl game and catches 3 balls for 137 yards. Instead of appreciating the start and being one of UPig's guys next season- he is entering the portal to try and get some extra cash from somewhere else.

State will never keep breakout players or any significant talent. They will move on to the blue blood higher bidder once they show something playing for us.

The majority of the ones we lose it seems to me are guys going back home like Zavion Thomas or Coleman.

[Coach34]

The majority of the ones we lose it seems to me are guys going back home like Zavion Thomas or Coleman.

Yes- Dillon went home to Washington and Woody went home to USC

[EdwardDrayton]

Yes- Dillon went home to Washington and Woody went home to USC

I thought Woody is from Georgia??!???

[Coach34]

I thought Woody is from Georgia??!???

I was being a smartass. They left us for better places

[EdwardDrayton]

I was being a smartass. They left us for better places

Yup. That they did.

[vv83]

Yes- Dillon went home to Washington and Woody went home to USC

Come on now. Your example is 2 RBs in an extremely RB unfriendly offense and one of those 2 RBs had a very public disagreement with the Leach right before it happened.

Yeah we will always lose players to the portal, but we should (and can this offseason) be a net positive from it and in theory be more competitive than we have been in our glorious, win filled, past that includes the legendary 1941 SEC championship and the 2014 Orange Bowl appearance.

We have been historic bottom dwellers our entire program lifespan, we have to embrace change and try to take advantage of new era protocol

[Coach34]

RaRa left for Georgia

I can name others but no need. State football is will be a constant fight for 6-6 from this day forward as long as constant transfers are allowed

[EdwardDrayton]

RaRa left for Georgia

I can name others but no need. State football is will be a constant fight for 6-6 from this day forward as long as constant transfers are allowed

Unfortunately this is true. <sigh>

[DownwardDawg]

RaRa left for Georgia

I can name others but no need. State football is will be a constant fight for 6-6 from this day forward as long as constant transfers are allowed

Yes. The transfer portal is killing us way more than NIL. Something has to be done to stop the transferring.

[CaptainObvious]

Yes. The transfer portal is killing us way more than NIL. Something has to be done to stop the transferring.

Nothing is going to be done. We. Are. A. Baseball. School.

[Quaoarsking]

We have the #5 ranked portal class in the country currently

Yeah, I'm talking about our fans, not the coaching staff (at last).

It seems like our fans overwhelmingly hate NIL and the portal, and fans of other schools with our level of prestige see it as the way out of mediocrity. Or maybe I'm overreacting to a small sample size.

[Todd4State]

Yes- Dillon went home to Washington and Woody went home to USC

Doesn't really matter because anyone we have lost we have replaced with someone in the portal as we are doing now.

Really it's a matter of time before we get completely up to speed with NIL because Cohen didn't know what he was doing.

See our top 6 portal class that we have put together after a 2-10 season.

[Todd4State]

Yeah, I'm talking about our fans, not the coaching staff (at last).

It seems like our fans overwhelmingly hate NIL and the portal, and fans of other schools with our level of prestige see it as the way out of mediocrity. Or maybe I'm overreacting to a small sample size.

I think many of our fans are uncomfortable with it. And I think it's because of MSU's football culture set by the athletic department in the past. MSU has long discouraged fans to pay for players even though yes it happened. But when our fans were caught in the act I can't remember a time in the past where MSU stood up for the University. team, and booster and instead cooperated with the NCAA and collected "exemplary compliance" trophies while actually penalizing the team worse than the NCAA would have in some cases.

Basically the attitude for years was "Yes we can play dirty and build a good football team but eventually it's all going to get taken away by the NCAA once we get caught so it's really not worth it."

It also allows for some very convenient excuses for our large group of fans that like to bitch just to bitch when they don't really have control of the situation. Now as it is fans have much more control because if a fan bitches and they aren't giving money they are at fault to a small degree. So when they bitch MSU fans can shoot back "Well if you don't like it donate more". There is a lot less on the fan when they can conveniently point to LT, Jackie, Dan, Leach, Arnett, Croom, etc. for screwing things up. The rants aren't so comfortable when the shoe is on the other foot.

I think that is changing based on the recent donation figures though. And it's not like you have to sell a kidney every month to participate in NIL. Anything helps.

Contrast that to Ole Miss where paying players is essentially part of their football tradition and culture. It's not surprising that they adapted to NIL a lot quicker than MSU. Eventually I think it's going to level out though because MSU has always had the potential to spend. It's just never really been tapped into until now.

[MoreCowbell]

Every "have not" fanbase in the Power Four loves the NIL and the portal ... except us.

Why is that?

Because our fan and alumni base is poor and in the poorest state

[MoreCowbell]

Yeah, I'm talking about our fans, not the coaching staff (at last).

It seems like our fans overwhelmingly hate NIL and the portal, and fans of other schools with our level of prestige see it as the way out of mediocrity. Or maybe I'm overreacting to a small sample size.

Dude we have no prestige

[MoreCowbell]

I think many of our fans are uncomfortable with it. And I think it's because of MSU's football culture set by the athletic department in the past. MSU has long discouraged fans to pay for players even though yes it happened. But when our fans were caught in the act I can't remember a time in the past where MSU stood up for the University. team, and booster and instead cooperated with the NCAA and collected "exemplary compliance" trophies while actually penalizing the team worse than the NCAA would have in some cases.

Basically the attitude for years was "Yes we can play dirty and build a good football team but eventually it's all going to get taken away by the NCAA once we get caught so it's really not worth it."

It also allows for some very convenient excuses for our large group of fans that like to bitch just to bitch when they don't really have control of the situation. Now as it is fans have much more control because if a fan bitches and they aren't giving money they are at fault to a small degree. So when they bitch MSU fans can shoot back "Well if you don't like it donate more". There is a lot less on the fan when they can conveniently point to LT, Jackie, Dan, Leach, Arnett, Croom, etc. for screwing things up. The rants aren't so comfortable when the shoe is on the other foot.

I think that is changing based on the recent donation figures though. And it's not like you have to sell a kidney every month to participate in NIL. Anything helps.

Contrast that to Ole Miss where paying players is essentially part of their football tradition and culture. It's not surprising that they adapted to NIL a lot quicker than MSU. Eventually I think it's going to level out though because MSU has always had the potential to spend. It's just never really been tapped into until now.

No it is because the deficit it insurmountable and most of us realize it.

If I go write a check for $25,000 tomorrow and give it to football NIL what tangible difference would that make? Other SEC school have at least 20x the manpower and money we have and no one trusts the leadership in charge.

Plus the thought of my hard earned money going to some kid I do not know, who will be here for 5 months, to play 17ing football then leave absolutely infuriates me


Shit, our last 2 ADs-graduates, athlete, coach, stepfather MSU legend, both ditched here to go to rival schools. Cohen leaving should tell you everything you need to know about how bad our situation is. Them leaving does not give me a good feeling about where we are headed.

[The Federalist Engineer]

NIL also has consequences... you allow an unathletic donor kid on your team for money and then allow the kid on the sideline out of pity... then the Georgia Rudy helps ND in a key moment

[AROB44]

Because our fan and alumni base is poor and in the poorest state

Our fan and alumni base is more cheap than anything else.