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12-27-2024, 12:28 PM
#2401

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I'm glad you are, because I'm not. If we have SEC talent, it sure didn't show this year. I mean there's a reason we're bringing in so many guys, it's because we don't think we have talent or depth at that position. Like I said, we have some depth pieces but no high end starters. Could Kalvin Dinkins be that? Absolutely. Could Trevion Williams be that? Absolutely. The problem is that we're hoping and not knowing. Hope gets you beat in the SEC. You need production, especially this day and age.
That's why I'm really excited about a guy like Will Whitson. He's shown he can do it and stay healthy doing it, yes he got banged up last year but could've come back. He shut it down so he could enter the portal. We don't know if Dinkins can do it and Trevion hasn't been healthy long enough to see. If those guys could get and stay healthy, then we have something.
Dinkins & Williams along with the transfer guys is 2 to 3 deep and SEC talent.
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12-27-2024, 12:31 PM
#2402

Originally Posted by
msu15
Did you watch the same defensive line group last year that I watched?
The DL was average. The LB play was poor along with the secondary. There's not much a DL can do when you're playing majority 3 down lineman vs 5 or 6 OL each play.
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12-27-2024, 12:32 PM
#2403

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Dinkins & Williams along with the transfer guys is 2 to 3 deep and SEC talent.
I want to agree with you, but even if healthy Dinkins and Williams are average SEC guys. I really like the Whitson kid, he is a clear upgrade.
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12-27-2024, 12:36 PM
#2404

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
I want to agree with you, but even if healthy Dinkins and Williams are average SEC guys. I really like the Whitson kid, he is a clear upgrade.
That's all you need if they're backups.
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12-27-2024, 12:37 PM
#2405

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
The DL was average.
As someone that played in the trenches I disagree pretty strongly. To each their own.
"We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.
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12-27-2024, 12:40 PM
#2406

Originally Posted by
msu15
As someone that played in the trenches I disagree pretty strongly. To each their own.
I agree with you. Our DL was BAD. No way around it.
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12-27-2024, 12:46 PM
#2407

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I agree with you. Our DL was BAD. No way around it.
Bad is generous. I know injuries, but the Arkansas game was the worst DL I think I've ever watched in CFB... not just MSU games. Non existent that game.
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12-27-2024, 12:49 PM
#2408
A nice corner prospect just hit the portal - Michael Coats, an ALL MWC performer from Nevada. He would be a perfect fit.
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12-27-2024, 12:50 PM
#2409

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Bad is generous. I know injuries, but the Arkansas game was the worst DL I think I've ever watched in CFB... not just MSU games. Non existent that game.
It was non existent most games. But we were in a Catch 22. We couldn't get home if we sent 3 or 4, but would have receivers running open if we blitzed. I thought the Egg Bowl we did a great job of disguising coverage until the snap.
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12-27-2024, 12:55 PM
#2410

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
A nice corner prospect just hit the portal - Michael Coats, an ALL MWC performer from Nevada. He would be a perfect fit.
Open the checkbook. I want him, the DE from Clemson, the DT from Coastal then whatever Lebby ends up doing at WR
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12-27-2024, 12:57 PM
#2411

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Open the checkbook. I want him, the DE from Clemson, the DT from Coastal then whatever Lebby ends up doing at WR
We're not getting the DE from Clemson. I doubt we even are able to get in the game with him. We will get the DT from Coastal and Lebby still has plenty of time at WR.
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12-27-2024, 12:58 PM
#2412

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
We're not getting the DE from Clemson. I doubt we even are able to get in the game with him. We will get the DT from Coastal and Lebby still has plenty of time at WR.
I figured as much, but I'm still in Christmas miracle mode
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12-27-2024, 01:09 PM
#2413

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Open the checkbook. I want him, the DE from Clemson, the DT from Coastal then whatever Lebby ends up doing at WR
You just need to put the DE from Clemson out of your mind. He's not coming
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12-27-2024, 01:15 PM
#2414

Originally Posted by
msu15
As someone that played in the trenches I disagree pretty strongly. To each their own.
As someone who played in the SEC with elite talent and SEC talent I stand on my foundation.
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12-27-2024, 01:19 PM
#2415

Originally Posted by
msu15
As someone that played in the trenches I disagree pretty strongly. To each their own.
Name the DL that played with Chris Jones. Name the DL with Simmons. Were they SEC talent? At MSU there's typically one elite guy surrounded with SEC talent. The elite teams have elite depth. However, we've found our formula for success.
Last edited by bulldawg28; 12-27-2024 at 01:24 PM.
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12-27-2024, 01:27 PM
#2416

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Name the DL that played with Chris Jones. Name the DL with Simmons. Were they SEC talent? At MSU there's one elite with SEC talent surrounding him. The elite teams have elite depth. However, we've found our formula for success.
Jones: Nelson Adams, Ryan Brown, Jonathan Calvin, Torrey Dale, Braxton Hoyett, Nick James, AJ Jefferson
Simmons: Corey Thomas, Gerri Green, Grant Harris, Fletcher Adams, Montez Sweat, Marquiss Spencer
Those were some DUDES. They were SEC guys. Most were depth guys, but SEC depth guys. We don't have any guys like that. We have G5 depth guys. We'd kill for a Braxton Hoyett or a Fletcher Adams or a Grant Harris or even a Ryan Brown on this team.
Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 12-27-2024 at 01:29 PM.
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12-27-2024, 01:37 PM
#2417

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Jones: Nelson Adams, Ryan Brown, Jonathan Calvin, Torrey Dale, Braxton Hoyett, Nick James, AJ Jefferson
Simmons: Corey Thomas, Gerri Green, Grant Harris, Fletcher Adams, Montez Sweat, Marquiss Spencer
Those were some DUDES. They were SEC guys. Most were depth guys, but SEC depth guys. We don't have any guys like that. We have G5 depth guys. We'd kill for a Braxton Hoyett or a Fletcher Adams or a Grant Harris or even a Ryan Brown on this team.
One or two were dudes. The rest were SEC talented guys if they were dudes they would have been NFL guys. Simmons and Sweat were dudes. Jones played with SEC talent. The transfer guys signed are proven or guys with high ceilings. It's up to the coaching to bring it out.
If the current coaches can't sign or bring out talent Mullen will upon his return.
Last edited by bulldawg28; 12-27-2024 at 01:40 PM.
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12-27-2024, 01:47 PM
#2418

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
One or two were dudes. The rest were SEC talented guys if they were dudes they would have been NFL guys. Simmons and Sweat were dudes. Jones played with SEC talent. The transfer guys signed are proven or guys with high ceilings. It's up to the coaching to bring it out.
If the current coaches can't sign or bring out talent Mullen will upon his return.
Dan isn't coming back. I can say that with pretty much 100% confidence. There were talks last year and he had no interest. He only took the UNLV job because Bishop Gorman is such a good HS that his son will get recognition and the AAU circuit is huge in Vegas now.
There's also the Zach Arnett piece to it. We will never let him back in our building again.
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12-27-2024, 02:30 PM
#2419

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Jones: Nelson Adams, Ryan Brown, Jonathan Calvin, Torrey Dale, Braxton Hoyett, Nick James, AJ Jefferson
Simmons: Corey Thomas, Gerri Green, Grant Harris, Fletcher Adams, Montez Sweat, Marquiss Spencer
Those were some DUDES. They were SEC guys. Most were depth guys, but SEC depth guys. We don't have any guys like that. We have G5 depth guys. We'd kill for a Braxton Hoyett or a Fletcher Adams or a Grant Harris or even a Ryan Brown on this team.
-Brown played in the NFL for two seasons or so,Calvin played in the NFL for three seasons, Hoyett as well. AJ made it to final cuts with Rams.
-Corey played for two seasons in NFL, Gerri at least four seasons,Sweat well obviously, and Spencer spent at least two years in NFL.
So our DL weren?t just some chumps, they were NFL level talent. And people say Mullen couldn?t recruit ha.
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12-27-2024, 02:34 PM
#2420
Kelly Ahkaraiyi declared for the draft today. We're in the market for 2 WRs again.
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