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12-24-2024, 10:23 PM
#2321

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
If you want to talk ROI, 12 million for 6 wins total ain't much of an ROI.... would be a better use of funds to be used in baseball/basketball
I'm old enough to remember when $200K to Pastor Newton would have bought us a national championship***
As opposed to the negative balance the other sports bring except MBK? Women’s BBall is more popular than baseball….and it’s not even close. Women’s March madness averaged almost 20 million viewers in 2024. Baseball CWS averaged just 1.6 million. According to the article linked below, our terrible football team averaged roughly 800k viewers. That’s half of what the BEST college baseball teams average.
So with that being said, a 6-6 team that grows the viewer base, and gets the average fan attendance back/builds some excitement, would be a worthy ROI IMO. We’re not going to be able to bring this back at once. It may not take 5 years, but it will likely take minimum of this year and next.
https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-...4-6596e696ebaf
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12-25-2024, 02:23 AM
#2322

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
I don't get the low expectations. If we are going to spend 12-13 million, bowling is a minimum. If 6 wins is the ceiling, we might as well not spend anything and just put that money to another sport.
We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?
6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.
If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.
Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.
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12-25-2024, 09:14 AM
#2323
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12-25-2024, 09:26 AM
#2324

Originally Posted by
Pancho
Who is next after Fluff?
Raishein Thomas and Will Whitson.
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12-25-2024, 10:21 AM
#2325
Late to the party, but what is the story on whitson? Looks like he would be a 6th year guy (old is good) who only played 4 games in 2024 (maybe to secure a redshirt?)
Is he a 3 technique or a traditional DE?
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12-25-2024, 10:23 AM
#2326

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?
6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.
If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.
Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.
Golf clap!! People that thought a lot of money would get studs were naive or just dumb. We need to improve as you said. Good post Todd!
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12-25-2024, 10:35 AM
#2327

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?
6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.
If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.
Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.
One of your best posts in a while (not that others are bad).
A lot of our fanbase thinks it's like Amazon, get your money and point and click to get the player you want. It's a process, and you have to become competitive before you can become an attractive destination to big time guys.
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12-25-2024, 10:54 AM
#2328
If we can get to 6 wins next year with the schedule we have then Lebby did a great job. Next year is going to tell how good of a coach Lebby is. We still don’t have enough information to determine it yet considering we were the worst talented team by far in the SEC last year
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12-25-2024, 11:19 AM
#2329

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?
6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.
If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.
Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.
Damn Dude, you are making too much sense for this board. well put.
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12-25-2024, 11:52 AM
#2330

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?
6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.
If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.
Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.
I'm not saying we should be title contenders, but the goal should not be 6 wins. Never should the goal be to get to .500.
And ole miss model ain't working. They won 9 games and their portal haul ain't no better than ours with 2 wins.
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12-25-2024, 12:06 PM
#2331

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
I'm not saying we should be title contenders, but the goal should not be 6 wins. Never should the goal be to get to .500.
And ole miss model ain't working. They won 9 games and their portal haul ain't no better than ours with 2 wins.
???? They have won 10 games two years in a row and regularly whoop our ass. Their model is working
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12-25-2024, 12:16 PM
#2332

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?
6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.
If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.
Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.
Pretty much what I said the page before. 2-10 and more money is not going to let you go get whoever you want. Improve the roster, get a better record. Then hopefully you become more attractive the next year. I also said our coaches better show they can coach this year too, especially on D.
Last edited by Bdawg; 12-25-2024 at 12:19 PM.
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12-25-2024, 12:50 PM
#2333

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?
6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.
If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.
Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.
Well stated Todd, nicely written. This a process for us. The Confederates were not nearly as talent deficient as we are to start the process either. 6-6 will be one hell of a job by this staff. I would be very happy to be in Birmingham after Christmas next year.
Last edited by Coursesuper; 12-25-2024 at 01:07 PM.
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12-25-2024, 12:56 PM
#2334

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
I'm not saying we should be title contenders, but the goal should not be 6 wins. Never should the goal be to get to .500.
And ole miss model ain't working. They won 9 games and their portal haul ain't no better than ours with 2 wins.
See the forest for the trees. The model they are using is working exactly as they planned. They are a perennial 9 to 10 win football program that is garnering a nice chunk of national attention. They are attracting top flight talent and the university and town are prospering. I hope that we can get on that same track. If f not it?s not going to be pretty.
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12-25-2024, 01:00 PM
#2335

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
See the forest for the trees. The model they are using is working exactly as they planned. They are a perennial 9 to 10 win football program that is garnering a nice chunk of national attention. They are attracting top flight talent and the university and town are prospering. I hope that we can get on that same track. If f not it?s not going to be pretty.
They aren't winning 9-10 games next year without a RB and with Simmons at QB
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12-25-2024, 01:29 PM
#2336

Originally Posted by
Tripp McNeely
They aren't winning 9-10 games next year without a RB and with Simmons at QB
We said this same thing about Dart. And Corral before because he was such a bad character that nobody but Ole Miss would take. Rinse and repeat. And if they don?t win 9 they will win 7 or 8 and it will be considered a down year for them.
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12-25-2024, 02:27 PM
#2337

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
We said this same thing about Dart. And Corral before because he was such a bad character that nobody but Ole Miss would take. Rinse and repeat. And if they don?t win 9 they will win 7 or 8 and it will be considered a down year for them.
Their schedule gives them almost 8 wins
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12-25-2024, 02:31 PM
#2338

Originally Posted by
Tripp McNeely
They aren't winning 9-10 games next year without a RB and with Simmons at QB
The Simmons kid can play and will be in his third year in the program. They will be a good team again next season.
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12-25-2024, 06:29 PM
#2339

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We went 2-10 last year. Did you think that we were going to raise 12-13 million and start raiding Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Ohio State for players by simply throwing money around?
6 wins is the goal for next year- not the overall standard for the program.
If you look at Ole Miss's model- because that is the one we are following as a program- they started out as basically a .500 team before taking steps to become a 10 win team. And before you say they went to the Gator Bowl- their wins were over Kentucky, Vanderbilt, a 2-8 South Carolina team, and a MSU team depleted by COVID and an Indiana team riddled with opt outs.
Hopefully once we start to win games and show stability the profile of the players we recruit will become bigger and we can hopefully have 9-10 win seasons.
One of your better post, Todd. However, we can?t tell Cowbell anything-remember his three brothers/cousins played in the SEC so he knows all how it works!
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12-25-2024, 06:46 PM
#2340
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