2025 MSU Football Recruiting Thread

[StarkVegasSteve]

We hung on to Miles. We're going to lose Hardy. 50/50 on Lockhart.

[BankerDog]

If we lose Hardy after losing Coleman and Henry-DT deserves to be fired before EOD. He has vastly under recruited that unit over two years and the sole reason he was brought back was to capitalize on the instate guys last year that all went to Ole Miss. I?m sick and tired of watching his DL play titty ball and gap contain with no pressure ever. Ever wonder why we have to have our DBs play zone and 20 off so much? Because our DL coach hasn?t produced a pass rusher.

Bring back Brian Baker or go get Bo Davis.

[civildawg]

Anyone defending this staff is a loser, plain and simple

[Cooterpoot]

Hardy to SC. Fire all these mother17ers!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hardy to SC. Fire all these mother17ers!

Hardy is a loss no doubt. But I do caution people to do something before we act like he was the second coming of Montez Sweat, he's not. Go look at the top JUCO players from last year and look up how much the contributed. The biggest contributor is number 16, Brylan Lanier. JUCO guys all need a year outside of D1 bouncebacks. Not saying Hardy isn't a loss because he is, but he is not irreplaceable. Just go get a portal guy. We always knew Hardy favored USCe. Hell they placed him at EMCC.

[StarkVegasSteve]

First flip for us, Kyle Johnson(4 star corner from LA) flips from Houston.

[ZedFedder]

That is a big get.

[Cowbell]

Just a friendly reminder: kids that flip on signing day, rarely fulfill the expectations.,unless they just got last-minute offers, they are usually drama queens

[BankerDog]

Y'all getting carried away, the portal ain't open yet

Still think Turner is gonna pull quality out of portal? I?ve been saying it for two years now, he needs to go and should?ve never been brought back.

[Cooterpoot]

Still think Turner is gonna pull quality out of portal? I?ve been saying it for two years now, he needs to go and should?ve never been brought back.

Never thought he would
But now I don't think anybody on this staff will

[StarkVegasSteve]

Never thought he would
But now I don't think anybody on this staff will

Everyone else can. The damn problem is that DL is our biggest need and Turner is the biggest recruiting anchor on this staff by a mile. He was the biggest recruiting anchor on the previous staff too, but we JUST HAD to have him.

[Cowbell]

Everyone else can. The damn problem is that DL is our biggest need and Turner is the biggest recruiting anchor on this staff by a mile. He was the biggest recruiting anchor on the previous staff too, but we JUST HAD to have him.

I always chuckle when he tweets stuff like "who wants to come to state" and "who's next". I could recruit better than that

[StarkVegasSteve]

I always chuckle when he tweets stuff like "who wants to come to state" and "who's next". I could recruit better than that

He was a bad hire when we made it and he's proven exactly that. He was a really good coach in the mid 00s. He was not by the time he left us the second time in 15. Dan, Hev, Tony, and Mike Dunlap had to rescue Chris Jones. Dan told him to move on in 15 and that saved Simmons. Mullen gave him credit for that, but that was some Delta boosters and Tony who brought that one home.

[Cooterpoot]

Everyone else can. The damn problem is that DL is our biggest need and Turner is the biggest recruiting anchor on this staff by a mile. He was the biggest recruiting anchor on the previous staff too, but we JUST HAD to have him.

We aren't signing difference makers on either side of the ball. A bunch of Juco projects that will take a year and guys without many big offers at all. The OL and DL are bad!

[StarkVegasSteve]

We aren't signing difference makers on either side of the ball. A bunch of Juco projects that will take a year and guys without many big offers at all. The OL and DL are bad!

The OL can be fixed in the portal. DB can be fixed in the portal. LB can be fixed in the portal. If we don't can David Turner, DL cannot be fixed in the portal. We'll get 1 or 2 because we just MASSIVELY overpay but we won't get what we need, which is talent AND depth.

[Cooterpoot]

The OL can be fixed in the portal. DB can be fixed in the portal. LB can be fixed in the portal. If we don't can David Turner, DL cannot be fixed in the portal. We'll get 1 or 2 because we just MASSIVELY overpay but we won't get what we need, which is talent AND depth.

Man, we can't even get Junior college prospects to take our NIL and you think top portal prospects will? That's not going to happen. This staff is a train wreck starting with Lebby. He's not a HC if he can't do what's necessary to be a great program.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Man, we can't even get Junior college prospects to take our NIL and you think top portal prospects will? That's not going to happen

All due respect, JUCO prospects don't make or break you. We didn't massively overpay on Hardy or Mitchell. We will probably MASSIVELY overpay on portal guys. I'm talking 200-350K clear of the nearest offer

[Really Clark?]

Man, we can't even get Junior college prospects to take our NIL and you think top portal prospects will? That's not going to happen. This staff is a train wreck starting with Lebby. He's not a HC if he can't do what's necessary to be a great program.

We are going to overspend for portal players. That was already the thought process. But I'm thinking it's going to have to be even more to get DL at this point. The rest of the class so far is ok. Although if we lose Lockhart and LoJack at the end...SMDH

[StarkVegasSteve]

We are going to overspend for portal players. That was already the thought process. But I'm thinking it's going to have to be even more to get DL at this point. The rest of the class so far is ok. Although if we lose Lockhart and LoJack at the end...SMDH

Either would be big losses. Lockhart would be big for just a whole other issue because you lose 3 if you lose him because you lose Clark and big Lockhart. So unfortunately we're having to make NIL deals this morning, and last night, for guys that didn't play a snap this year and at best will play on special teams next year.

[BankerDog]

We aren't signing difference makers on either side of the ball. A bunch of Juco projects that will take a year and guys without many big offers at all. The OL and DL are bad!

Nah man don?t say that now?you were just saying two weeks ago those DL commitments had P4 offers when several of us questioned him taking them.