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12-02-2024, 07:52 PM
#141

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Have been told to expect Trevion Williams to enter the portal when it opens.
Guy had all physical tools, but two crappy DL coaches in Phelps and Turner.
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12-02-2024, 08:05 PM
#142

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Have been told to expect Trevion Williams to enter the portal when it opens.
He came in with a lot of hype. We have waited for a couple of years for him to blow up and it never happened.
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12-02-2024, 08:05 PM
#143

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Have been told to expect Trevion Williams to enter the portal when it opens.
Hopefully they talk him out of it.
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12-02-2024, 11:19 PM
#144

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Hopefully they talk him out of it.
Perfect example of a player that we can?t over pay on to stay,
We did it last year with John Lewis and Anderson and they did nothing for us.
There are a handful of players we should pay to retain, he isn?t one of them.
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12-03-2024, 08:16 AM
#145

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Perfect example of a player that we can?t over pay on to stay,
We did it last year with John Lewis and Anderson and they did nothing for us.
There are a handful of players we should pay to retain, he isn?t one of them.
John Lewis definitely would have helped us. That's coaching malpractice with his situation.
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12-03-2024, 08:54 AM
#146

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
John Lewis definitely would have helped us. That's coaching malpractice with his situation.
Then it's coaching malpractice by two different staffs. Lewis has trouble covering routes and doesn't wrap up when he tackles. This staff gave him every chance and Tillman outplayed him.
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12-03-2024, 09:08 AM
#147

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Then it's coaching malpractice by two different staffs. Lewis has trouble covering routes and doesn't wrap up when he tackles. This staff gave him every chance and Tillman outplayed him.
John Lewis went to SEC Media Days and a leader of the team. He was expected to be the next great Linebacker but it never happened.
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12-03-2024, 09:10 AM
#148

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
John Lewis went to SEC Media Days and a leader of the team. He was expected to be the next great Linebacker but it never happened.
Ehh it was more that he'd just been here longer than Issac Smith, Stone, etc. and we needed a defensive guy to go since we already had Shapen and Reese.
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12-03-2024, 09:54 AM
#149

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Then it's coaching malpractice by two different staffs. Lewis has trouble covering routes and doesn't wrap up when he tackles. This staff gave him every chance and Tillman outplayed him.
He played under Arnett. The new DC could have have moved him to DE for pressure
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12-03-2024, 10:26 AM
#150

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
John Lewis definitely would have helped us. That's coaching malpractice with his situation.
John Lewis can't play at this level. It's as simple as that. He's a straight-line athlete that lacks instincts and quickness. Too small to be an edge rusher. Not agile enough to bend the corner as an edge rusher. Not athletic enough to help in coverage.
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12-03-2024, 10:58 AM
#151
Good attrition so far on our roster. Need to lose about 25-30 more.
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12-03-2024, 11:30 AM
#152

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Good attrition so far on our roster. Need to lose about 25-30 more.
We can't lose that many and expect to fill all the holes with portal guys.
First, there won't be as many quality portal guys because schools have more NIL money and they will retain more. We will be retaining most of the players that other schools will want.
Second, quality portal guys are expensive and we can't go out and sign 20-25 quality portal guys. Yes we have a solid NIL budget, but hey this past year's roster wasn't cheap.
Finally, its not like our HS/Juco recruiting is producing a bunch of instant impact guys. We may have a few, but for the most part they are depth pieces. We need to hang on to some guys on our roster that are in the two deep that could provide decent depth.
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12-03-2024, 11:59 AM
#153
John Lewis in the portal.
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12-03-2024, 12:07 PM
#154
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12-03-2024, 12:14 PM
#155

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
We can't lose that many and expect to fill all the holes with portal guys.
First, there won't be as many quality portal guys because schools have more NIL money and they will retain more. We will be retaining most of the players that other schools will want.
Second, quality portal guys are expensive and we can't go out and sign 20-25 quality portal guys. Yes we have a solid NIL budget, but hey this past year's roster wasn't cheap.
Finally, it's not like our HS/Juco recruiting is producing a bunch of instant impact guys. We may have a few, but for the most part they are depth pieces. We need to hang on to some guys on our roster that are in the two deep that could provide decent depth.
Not all of the portal guys will be high dollar impact players. We have build a 2 deep, especially on defense. We will spend a lot because we need a lot and for the right guys we will have to overspend on some of them. But don't think every portal guy we sign are going to be top tier impact guys. But we will sign around 25 if at all possible and have the money to do so.
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12-03-2024, 12:28 PM
#156

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
John Lewis in the portal.
He was told that his NIL deal wasn't being renewed.
I'm wondering what we tell Shapen. I can't imagine we renew his deal to be the backup.
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12-03-2024, 12:31 PM
#157

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
He was told that his NIL deal wasn't being renewed.
I'm wondering what we tell Shapen. I can't imagine we renew his deal to be the backup.
You renew it if either A) You don't get Arnold or B) If MVB doesn't stay and you can't find a good backup. Otherwise you thank him for his services and help him find a new school.
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12-03-2024, 12:34 PM
#158

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
You renew it if either A) You don't get Arnold or B) If MVB doesn't stay and you can't find a good backup. Otherwise you thank him for his services and help him find a new school.
I don't see Arnold hitting the portal. If he does, I can't imagine he comes here. I would think he would do the Dillon Gabriel move. Plus, spending 7 figures on a QB and letting MVB walk (Which would happen) doesn't make sense when we have so many other holes.
I haven't heard anything about MVB leaving. He showed flashes, but thankfully not consistent enough to where I think someone offers him a bag to leave.
I think he gets a solid raise, we tell Shapen that he either takes a pay cut or he walks. If Shapen does walk, we have to get a mid-tier back up QB in the portal.
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12-03-2024, 12:47 PM
#159

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
I don't see Arnold hitting the portal. If he does, I can't imagine he comes here. I would think he would do the Dillon Gabriel move. Plus, spending 7 figures on a QB and letting MVB walk (Which would happen) doesn't make sense when we have so many other holes.
I haven't heard anything about MVB leaving. He showed flashes, but thankfully not consistent enough to where I think someone offers him a bag to leave.
I think he gets a solid raise, we tell Shapen that he either takes a pay cut or he walks. If Shapen does walk, we have to get a mid-tier back up QB in the portal.
We may not get him but Arnold is most likely transferring and we have a shot. MVB only walks of thinks he can get more money than we are willing to pay. Auburn is coming after so many QB's that it's creating some chaos in the market. We have multiple plans in place and money to do any of them. Get Arnold, keep Shapen as ins, or bring in a G5 guy...we already have had those discussions.
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12-03-2024, 01:18 PM
#160
Brice Pollock in the portal. To say that is one we did not want to lose is an understatement. Need to find a way to get him back.
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