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    Tom Herman Fired at FAU

    A lot of people really wanted him hired here last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    A lot of people really wanted him hired here last year.
    Could he have gone 2-10 or maybe 3-9 for us? Did he know a good position coach to be our DC*****

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    Our new coach is doing a worse job than the guy we just fired
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Our new coach is doing a worse job than the guy we just fired
    That’s because we keep hiring coordinators instead of coaches with head coaching experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Our new coach is doing a worse job than the guy we just fired
    Lolz...well, at least your boys have time to hang out and pick your brain for it's offensive genius...**

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Our new coach is doing a worse job than the guy we just fired
    We've really hit rock bottom...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Our new coach is doing a worse job than the guy we just fired
    This is a fact.....unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Our new coach is doing a worse job than the guy we just fired
    And most of our fans don't agree with this for some reason

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    I remember when Herman and Frost were the shooting stars of the college coaching world. Now, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Our new coach is doing a worse job than the guy we just fired
    No, he isn't. He's got 2 wins right now because of the shit job Arnett did. Arnett destroyed the program and left nothing in the cupboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    No, he isn't. He's got 2 wins right now because of the shit job Arnett did. Arnett destroyed the program and left nothing in the cupboard.
    Arnett was HC for 10 months. He didnt destroy anything. Leach started that process
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Arnett was HC for 10 months. He didnt destroy anything. Leach started that process
    What was Arnett's role before becoming HC? How long did he hold that position? And finally, what side of the ball are we struggling with the most this season?

    I'll hang up and listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    No, he isn't. He's got 2 wins right now because of the shit job Arnett did. Arnett destroyed the program and left nothing in the cupboard.
    Dude - I'm not a Leach hater like some on here, but blaming Arnett for the state of the roster is like blaming the President because the mailman is banging your wife.

    If you go back and look at the recruiting classes that should be seniors/juniors, all you see is a bunch of non-SEC level players.

    Leach did a lot of good things here at MSU, recruiting was not one of them. His coaching/scheme usually made up for his recruiting failures, we don't have that now.

    This really isn't debatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Arnett was HC for 10 months. He didnt destroy anything. Leach started that process
    Arnett was in charge of recruiting on defense and also developing those players on defense. Defense is our biggest issue because we have an FCS caliber DL and players who were never developed under Arnett. Zach Arnett took a team that won 9 games in 2022 and had 16-17 starters returning and burned it to the ground. Jeff Lebby inherited a roster that had one player who started on a 5-win team. Jeff Lebby's offense is miles better than the shit offense Kevin Barbay and his run run run punt philosophy, and that's with a true freshman at QB and new starters at every position.

    Zach Arnett should be seen as a pariah by Mississippi State fans. He's the single worst thing that has ever happened to the program.

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    I am old enough to remember we had a coach winning games and being competitive, but there were nicknames on this site about his offense because he didn't run the ball.
    We had an offense hard to defend each week , could control the clock or speed up, and could utilize lesser talented players. But the heck with that. Now we are cooking ***

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    At the end of the day the HC is responsible for the program and everything involved with it. When our recruiting on defense started to downturn, the HC was Mike Leach. It continued to trend down under Zach Arnett. They are both responsible for the crap we find ourselves in. Leach could just scheme better and knew how to win with inferior talent. Arnett did not.

    However, the main person we need to be blaming that somehow gets no blame is Dave Emerick. He was in charge of recruiting until Leach's last year. He screwed us. He and his recruiting dept ID'd players that couldn't play at this level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    At the end of the day the HC is responsible for the program and everything involved with it. When our recruiting on defense started to downturn, the HC was Mike Leach. It continued to trend down under Zach Arnett. They are both responsible for the crap we find ourselves in. Leach could just scheme better and knew how to win with inferior talent. Arnett did not.

    However, the main person we need to be blaming that somehow gets no blame is Dave Emerick. He was in charge of recruiting until Leach's last year. He screwed us. He and his recruiting dept ID'd players that couldn't play at this level.
    Good post. 100% on Emerick. He restricted players we could recruit and Leach let him do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Arnett was HC for 10 months. He didnt destroy anything. Mullen started that process
    FIFY

    Basically your hot wife left you and your three kids and the best you've been able to do since is ugly fat tinder chicks.
    Last edited by RezDog7; 11-19-2024 at 01:25 PM.

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    Two things are simultaneously true:

    Arnett did a bad job in 2023, though he did at least beat Arizona and Arkansas.

    Lebby has done a bad job so far in 2024, but at least he has 2 more games to mitigate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Two things are simultaneously true:

    Arnett did a bad job in 2023, though he did at least beat Arizona and Arkansas.

    Lebby has done a bad job so far in 2024, but at least he has 2 more games to mitigate that.
    Not true. Lebby's results are bad, but it's not because he is doing a bad job. It's because Arnett left him nothing.

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