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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
I'll just say this once: Big time players don't want to play for piss ant programs & first time coaches who win 2 17ing games. So get ready for Juco, Juco, Juco, and more G5 scabs. We already offering our 4th options in HS recruiting. Howdy Doodie needs to tell BBQ boy to make Lebby make changes in that staff or we can find another AD who isnt a dumb ass giving out big contracts to nobodies. Either we bring in real coaches on this staff or we hire a new staff and AD next year.
But Howdy's old lady has his nuts in a box on the mantle, so I expect a new bunch of people in another 2 years at this point.
And we will continue to be losers. Nothing changes. At least I got to enjoy the Dan M years. We will never be that good again.
"I'm sure the universe is full of intelligent life. It's just been too intelligent to come here." -- Arthur C. Clarke
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From what some are reporting, I would not expect Jaheim Oatis to be a Bulldog next year.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
From what some are reporting, I would not expect Jaheim Oatis to be a Bulldog next year.
Shocker!!!
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
From what some are reporting, I would not expect Jaheim Oatis to be a Bulldog next year.
We may not be as far off from Oatis as some, including myself, were led to believe.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I know it's a few weeks early but I figured I would go ahead and get this started and get some names going. I will bold the names that are officially in the portal and the rest will be guys I think will probably get into the portal/I hope they go in the portal. I will update it as we go along and add any names that you hear as well.
Quarterback
John Mateer-Wazzu
Preston Stone-SMU
Jackson Arnold-OU
Miller Moss-USC
Gio Lopez-South Al
RB
Leshon Williams-Iowa
Michael Allen-UNLV
Rocko Griffin-UTSA
Makhi Hughes-Tulane
George Pettaway-James Madison
Jovantae Barnes-OU
Tavorus Jones-Mizzou
WR
Harold Fanin Jr-BGSU
Eric Rivers-FIU
Donovan McCulley-Indiana
Jaedon Wilson-Arkansas
Chrishon McRay-Kent St
Justin Bowick-Ball St
Johntay Cook-Texas
Xavier Townsend-UCF
OL
Nicholas Hilliard-Princeton
Carter Miller-ULM
Jordan White-Liberty
Caleb Tiernan-Northwestern
Jason Brooks-Oklahoma St
Marcus Williams-TCU
DL
Jaheim Oatis-Bama
Red Hibbler-NC State
Keon Keely-Bama
Jordan Hall-UGA
Da'Shawn Womack-LSU
Vic Burley-Clemson
Gabriel Brownlow-Dindy-A&M
Enai White-A&M
Aiden Gobaira- Notre Dame
LB
Travion Barnes-FIU
Red Murdock-Buffalo
Chandler Martin-Memphis
Joseph Carter-Liberty
Bryun Parham-Washington
Keanu Koht- Alabama
DB
Tyree Skipper-ULL
Jahron Manning-ODU
Jahari Rodgers-SMU-committed to Nevada
Jaden Mickey-Notre Dame
Key Lawrence-Ole Miss
Raion Strader-Miami (OH)
Geimere Latimer-Jacksonville St
Syncere Safeeullah-Nebraska
Craig McDonald-Minnesota
Tahj Ra-El- Memphis
Get all of the DL. All of them. Worst group in both sides.
Then get all of the OL. Second worst group.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
I'll just say this once: Big time players don't want to play for piss ant programs & first time coaches who win 2 17ing games. So get ready for Juco, Juco, Juco, and more G5 scabs. We already offering our 4th options in HS recruiting. Howdy Doodie needs to tell BBQ boy to make Lebby make changes in that staff or we can find another AD who isnt a dumb ass giving out big contracts to nobodies. Either we bring in real coaches on this staff or we hire a new staff and AD next year.
But Howdy's old lady has his nuts in a box on the mantle, so I expect a new bunch of people in another 2 years at this point.
Hate to say this but Steve's report yesterday mentioned multiple Juco guys. I'm afraid what that means.
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Originally Posted by
gtowndawg
Hate to say this but Steve's report yesterday mentioned multiple Juco guys. I'm afraid what that means.
We're probably done with HS guys in recruiting, at least any new HS guys. There's still 5-6 guys out there that we're after and would take their commitment. We are going to recruit JUCO and portal the rest of the way. Nothing wrong with that in doses. Unfortunately with the situation we are in, we have to go that route for the next year. Right now, we need guys that can play and contribute next year. And I'll be honest, some of these JUCO guys (Hardy, Mitchell, Coleman, Odera) would play and probably start for us this year. Those guys are good. I mean South Carolina placed Hardy in JUCO and Mitchell was at Bama last year. Coleman was just a slipped through the cracks guy.
I am not in any way saying that is a sustainable formula. It wasn't in the old days and it is certainly not in this new age. However, there's still talent to be found at the JUCO level. Now, will you be finding the next Montez Sweat? Probably not. But you can still find some solid depth guys and even a starter, if it's a guy like Hardy.
On the portal, that picture will become REALLY CLEAR in the next 10 days. I would not be surprised if we had some portal visitors this weekend unofficially visit.
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Originally Posted by
gtowndawg
Hate to say this but Steve's report yesterday mentioned multiple Juco guys. I'm afraid what that means.
The jucos are needed badly. There's only one I question and he's not that big a deal. We'll sign some portal guys.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
The jucos are needed badly. There's only one I question and he's not that big a deal. We'll sign some portal guys.
Who's the one you question. Because I question one too, but I don't think it's the same guy. Mine is Clinton, but you seem pretty high on him.
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Going full JUCO is so MSU football.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Going full JUCO is so MSU football.
I don't follow recruiting anymore, but I figured the transfer rules would've killed juco talent. Guys can just go to a lesser D1 program now without sitting out.
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There is still talent in JUCO. The transfer rules changing doesn't mean that there still aren't late bloomers. There are still players who cannot get into school academically. There are still players who are bounce backs from other programs. Of our recruits in JUCO that have committed, Zavion Hardy was placed by South Carolina. Tony Mitchell played as a true freshman at Bama and was at EMCC because of some questionable decision making while driving. Mason Clinton is a bounce back from Louisiana. Lakendrick James is a guy who wasn't highly recruited out of high school but has been a star at Co-Lin.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I don't follow recruiting anymore, but I figured the transfer rules would've killed juco talent. Guys can just go to a lesser D1 program now without sitting out.
I understand what they are trying to do with all these JUCO offers and JUCO commitments but I do not think this is substantial. I am hoping that this a one year deal. I do think that the portal and JUCO goes hand in hand.
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Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
I understand what they are trying to do with all these JUCO offers and JUCO commitments but I do not think this is substantial. I am hoping that this a one year deal. I do think that the portal and JUCO goes hand in hand.
It's a one year deal. We know we need immediate help and depth and AT WORST the JUCO guys provide depth and guys that can immediately play snaps.
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Face it- there are still very talented athletes that are academically challenged (this was called dumb in the old days). Juco is still a comforting home for these guys
I've taught kids that cant pass lunch
Last edited by Coach34; 11-20-2024 at 09:56 PM.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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There's still good players in Juco. You dont want to rely too heavily on it, but we don't have much of a choice at the moment
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Going full JUCO is so MSU football.
Except that's not what we're doing. Many are just depth pieces and lord blinked we got no damn depth at all. If we don't get portal guys, to get more reps, then I'll be surprised but FR do us little good next season. They need to redshirt mostly.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Face it- there are still very talented athletes that are academically challenged (this was called dumb in the old days). Juco is still a comforting home for these guys
I've taught kids that cant pass lunch
Well since they have thrown out all of the recruiting laws why not bring back Prop B players?
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Truthfully, unless you're a high 4 or 5 star talent juco is a better option. Just hopping in the portal with no film for coaches is no bueno. Coaches can't be successful guessing on development.
One of the best ways to show development and get film is through juco. Sitting on the bench attempting to transfer is no longer cutting it.
Last edited by bulldawg28; 11-21-2024 at 09:15 AM.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Going full JUCO is so MSU football.
What options do we have at this point? Should we go back to the Crooms model of stealing Alabama A&M and Alabama State’s prized recruits on signing day?
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