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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    I wasn't all that fond of Kelenic to begin with.
    It's also a strong statement to say that Seitzer "broke" a guy who is a lifetime .213 hitter.
    AA took a flier and it didn't pay off. He's also young, so it could pay off down the road.
    Kelenic had a solid .746 ops in an extreme pitchers park last season in over 400 PA. In practically the same sample, his ops dropped to .679 and was benched in a much better hitters park

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    When the braves give up more than 3 runs this season, they're 11-59.
    Ouch

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    When you are missing Acuna & Riley you are going to struggle like that. Add in the games missed by Ozzie, Olson, Harris, and Murphy and it gets worse.

    I have zero expectation for this team in the post season. They shouldn't even be here - which is the point. Snit deserves a huge amount of credit for creating a culture that can win in spite of all the attrition.
    Agree with all of that. But AA knew he had shortcomings on the pitching staff during the offseason. He addressed it with the Sale trade (although nobody expected a Cy Young season) and took a gamble that paid off with Lopez. Strider blowing his elbow out in game 1 wasn't on anybody's radar, but some of this could have been addressed at the deadline when they KNEW that Lopez was already breaking down, Morton was ineffective, and they were basically giving away wins with the 5th starter spot.

    I understand that the offense has to do their part, double header, fly across the country, blah blah blah. But Smith-Shaver hasn't touched an MLB mound since MAY 23RD and you hand him the start in game 1 of a 3 game series when you already know that your bullpen has been taxed? Ridiculous.

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    Good riddance Fried! BUM!!

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    Well thank God that's over

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Well thank God that's over
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    Damn. They didn't even get to finish their cup of coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyDog View Post
    Good riddance Fried! BUM!!
    Career postseason - 5.10 era, 1.49 whip

    Glad we didn't extend him. If strider, Lopez, SS, and sale are healthy, he's clearly our #5, and he wants #1 pay.

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    Offseason goals...
    1. Rid ourselves of ozuna or soler. Can't have 2 DHs with Acuna coming off a major injury. Soler can fake it in RF, so it should be him and Acuna at DH/RF.

    2. Get a damn SS. If Arcia is our starting SS next season, AA failed. I want Kim of SD. Good player, who shouldn't break the bank.

    3. Id let TDA go. Let it be Murphy and drake baldwin. Time to get a little younger here, and drake may be our next big thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Offseason goals...
    1. Rid ourselves of ozuna or soler. Can't have 2 DHs with Acuna coming off a major injury. Soler can fake it in RF, so it should be him and Acuna at DH/RF.

    2. Get a damn SS. If Arcia is our starting SS next season, AA failed. I want Kim of SD. Good player, who shouldn't break the bank.

    3. Id let TDA go. Let it be Murphy and drake baldwin. Time to get a little younger here, and drake may be our next big thing.
    Do what it takes to swing a Sonny Gray trade with St Louis. Get another back end starter from the FA market. They CAN NOT do the 5th-6th starter shuffle again next year. Waldrep, Shawver, Ian Anderson, Dodd, and Vines aren’t the answer. The first 2 may contribute eventually but you can’t pencil them in dependably for next year.

    The whole Soler thing was srupid to start with, but like you said, with Acuna limited AA causes a mess for himself with 3 DHs. Thank the lord the whole Duvall and Rosario experiment is over. And who knows, Joc is still out there so he may be dumb enough to go after him for one last ride too. Who the heck knows what happens with Kelenic.

    Can’t afford to ride again with Arcia. There were rumblings in the offseason that Kim or Adames could have been gotten in a trade. Now Adames has priced himself out of reach. But it has to be anybody but Arcia

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    2 of 18 (really 16) postseason innings from the opening day rotation. Sure the doubleheader played a part but you have to be more competitive than that in October. And yet another example of why you can’t play the whole 4th-5th-6th starter shuffle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyDog View Post
    2 of 18 (really 16) postseason innings from the opening day rotation. Sure the doubleheader played a part but you have to be more competitive than that in October. And yet another example of why you can’t play the whole 4th-5th-6th starter shuffle.
    You don't have to. Tigers have shown how to execute pen games. Of course, hinch is a supercomputer compared to snit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    You don't have to. Tigers have shown how to execute pen games. Of course, hinch is a supercomputer compared to snit.
    In game 2, sure. But they won game one behind their soon to be Cy Young winner. Ours wasn’t even on the roster so we used a guy that hasn’t touched a big league mound in 4+ months to start game 1 followed by a guy who wants 250 million and lasted 2 innings.

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    Let Fried go and spend that money on another reliable starter. Get a SS, arcia is a good bench player but doesn't need to be an everyday player. May need another servicable outfielder, could probably platoon Soler/Kelenic.

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    I still want Rooker to come play one of the outfield corners. Seems like he?s good enough now that the A?s will want him gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinto View Post
    I still want Rooker to come play one of the outfield corners. Seems like he?s good enough now that the A?s will want him gone.
    My thoughts exactly. Rooker also mentioned that he hated the way the fans were treated in Oakland and got benched a few games. Seems like they would be happy to trade him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinto View Post
    I still want Rooker to come play one of the outfield corners. Seems like he?s good enough now that the A?s will want him gone.
    Yep Rooker should have been looked at hard. Even a rental from a player like Pham. I don’t know what the hell AA thought going after Soler. Even if he had gone on a power tear, it wasn’t worth it with his defense.

    It’s a little disturbing that AA has already stated to media that starting pitching won’t be an offseason priority. Wut??? Restrictions on Sale and Lopez, Strider with a rebuilt elbow, losing Fried, Morton retiring. Sure, AA, let’s ride with that!! SMDH

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    Braves picking up options on ozuna, TDA, and bummer. And apparently salary is going up, not down. Anxious to see how they use ozuna, soler, and Acuna. Guess Acuna or soler will move to lf

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Braves picking up options on ozuna, TDA, and bummer. And apparently salary is going up, not down. Anxious to see how they use ozuna, soler, and Acuna. Guess Acuna or soler will move to lf
    Platoon Soler and kelenic in lf possibly or just let Soler play first 6 or 7 and use kelenic as defensive replacement

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