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    Why doesnt Harvard or Yale get in the NIL game?

    IVY leagues could dominate.

    Why not?

    Dont say they have ethics and they are better than that.

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    The players who go there understand what their degrees will do for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    The players who go there understand what their degrees will do for them.
    They can have both

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    They don't care and they don't have the fan base to support it. Plus many of their grads move away from Massachusetts or New York after they get their degrees.

    Essentially it's a conference full of Vanderbilt's and Tulane's. Except they are even less likely to compromise their academic standards to get players in.

    Their alumni aren't going to want to compromise their Ivy League status to join say the Big 10 either and if they wanted to they would have to get buy in from all eight members and they would probably have to invite Army and Navy and convince them to join to make themselves somewhat legit. And maybe Stanford and Air Force too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    The players who go there understand what their degrees will do for them.
    It really wouldn't be a terrible idea if you are a player who is smart enough to go to an Ivy League school for four years and play football there and then portal out to a SEC school if you are a good enough football player as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    The players who go there understand what their degrees will do for them.
    Ivy League schools don't provide football scholarships. They use the old Vandy Baseball "needs based" scholarships.

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    Like Brunswick said, they don’t even give out athletic scholarships. Their line coach told my nephew directly that they don’t do NiL because the player benefits from the school directly and for life.

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    Just think Tommie Lee Jones was the right tackle for Harvard in 1969. Calvin Hill was Yales running back.

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    Just because a player decided to accept an NIL deal and the coaches wanted them, there?s still a 90% chance they aren?t accepted via the academic standards. Same thing at Army and Navy, you do not go to these schools for athletics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    They don't care and they don't have the fan base to support it. Plus many of their grads move away from Massachusetts or New York after they get their degrees.

    Essentially it's a conference full of Vanderbilt's and Tulane's. Except they are even less likely to compromise their academic standards to get players in.

    Their alumni aren't going to want to compromise their Ivy League status to join say the Big 10 either and if they wanted to they would have to get buy in from all eight members and they would probably have to invite Army and Navy and convince them to join to make themselves somewhat legit. And maybe Stanford and Air Force too.
    Elephant in the room??.Ivy League?.. transitioning athletes have zero chance in major sports outside of women?s sports where transitioners can dominate.

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    Because the alumni don't feel like their dicks were cut off after losing a football game. You go to an Ivy league school for the degree and networking. Not to lean on the water cooler at work and go ha-ha "WE" beat you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    Just because a player decided to accept an NIL deal and the coaches wanted them, there?s still a 90% chance they aren?t accepted via the academic standards. Same thing at Army and Navy, you do not go to these schools for athletics.
    I have a feeling many players couldn't care less about academic standards and if they were upheld they either then would or wouldn't be playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt3467 View Post
    I have a feeling many players couldn't care less about academic standards and if they were upheld they either then would or wouldn't be playing.
    My cousins son is on the lacrosse team at West Point. You better believe he has to keep up his grades. In the old days there was no pro payday until your 5-7 year term of service was completed. Napoleon MacCallum ended that but he still served as a supply officer in Oakland while playing for the Raiders. Now I think they have a 3 year active duty commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg View Post
    Because the alumni don't feel like their dicks were cut off after losing a football game. You go to an Ivy league school for the degree and networking. Not to lean on the water cooler at work and go ha-ha "WE" beat you.
    If there was ever a post that spoke the truth THIS IS IT. Can’t give rep but NAILED IT !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    Just think Tommie Lee Jones was the right tackle for Harvard in 1969. Calvin Hill was Yales running back.
    Wasn't Peter Wolf of the J. Giles Band TLJ's roommate at Harvard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Wasn't Peter Wolf of the J. Giles Band TLJ's roommate at Harvard?
    No, he was roommates with Al Gore.

    Peter Wolf went to Tufts and was roommates with David Lynch
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    A couple of times I had to quit coaching football because of my job demands in the legacy F/A-18 program. One time I could get back to Southwestern JC but I was too late and did a fill in coaching job at Lincoln HS football in 2018. Lincoln played Menlo Atherton, in the Bay Area, for your version of a 5A championship. Lincoln did a field trip to Stanford while up in the area. What did the team and I learn?

    Stanford is deeply embedded in the digital and high tec engineering at a high level globally. I learned that Stanford sometimes looks the other way for tuition of underprivileged and military personnel and dependents that qualify.

    Stanford monitors their football players keenly after they graduate. The University will network on behalf of the athlete to assure that the University does not loose its global elite status because of an athlete not achieving success in his or her future.

    Stanford even has tech support for laptops for athletes. The University has personnel, on payroll, to assure that an immediate response is forthcoming if a laptop fails.

    Stanford is so filthy rich that it demolished its stadium in November and had a replacement stadium in service the following September. Because of the brand, Stanford like some Ivy league Teams do not worry about NIL because athletics are a side gig in their scheme of things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    No, he was roommates with Al Gore.

    Peter Wolf went to Tufts and was roommates with David Lynch
    I forgot about Al Gore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt3467 View Post
    I have a feeling many players couldn't care less about academic standards and if they were upheld they either then would or wouldn't be playing.
    I think you?re missing what I?m saying. It has nothing to do with the players or coaches or athletics. The admission board would never let 90% of these players sniff acceptance. They don?t give a damn if you?re a 5 star QB you are not getting in if you can?t meet their academic standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    I think you?re missing what I?m saying. It has nothing to do with the players or coaches or athletics. The admission board would never let 90% of these players sniff acceptance. They don?t give a damn if you?re a 5 star QB you are not getting in if you can?t meet their academic standards.
    I agree with you about the Ivy league schools and the military schools. They don't treat their sports as most other schools do as their end all be all. I was just making a comment directed towards the other schools that will bend over backwards to make sure some of these kids get whatever grade they need to play.

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