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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Saw an article today that said 762 games had been missed by injured Braves so far this season.
    Bump for getting the Wild Card yesterday!!

    Loved Lopez coming back on 1 day's rest to help lock it down. BEAT THE PADRES!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Bump for getting the Wild Card yesterday!!

    Loved Lopez coming back on 1 day's rest to help lock it down. BEAT THE PADRES!!
    I still have no clue how they made the playoffs. Their injury list would make an impressive MVP or Cy Young shortlist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I still have no clue how they made the playoffs. Their injury list would make an impressive MVP or Cy Young shortlist.
    In all my years of follwing baseball I've never seen a team have this many injuries, I doubt there was any other team that could've survived what the Braves did this year and make the playoffs. Credit to their culture that they never panicked or wavered and kept fighting. Probably be a short run in the playoffs but i wouldn't put anything past this group. Would be a heckuva story if they somehow won it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    In all my years of follwing baseball I've never seen a team have this many injuries, I doubt there was any other team that could've survived what the Braves did this year and make the playoffs. Credit to their culture that they never panicked or wavered and kept fighting. Probably be a short run in the playoffs but i wouldn't put anything past this group. Would be a heckuva story if they somehow won it all.
    I always criticized Bobby Cox for his decision making. But, the thing that set him above so many others was the culture he created within the organization (along with Shurholtz). That was undeniable.
    HOF players would run thru brick walls for the guy. Snit makes a lot of the same type of questionable decisions, but like Bobby, he's built an undeniable culture that wins.

    I saw a stat last night - Since Division play began, the Braves have been to the Postseason 26 of 55 seasons. That's second only to the Yankees.
    They had made 2 prior to 1991. So between Cox and Snit (and a bit of Fredi) that's 24 postseasons in 33 years.
    Another incredible stat - of those 24 postseason, only 3 have been achieved by being a Wild Card. So they aren't getting in by the skin of their teeth.

    Yeah, I'd love to have more than 2 World Series titles. But, I grew up with 1970s and 1980s Braves teams. The first team I really remember was the '77 Braves, where my man Gary Mathews and Jeff Burroughs lead us to a 60-101 record. The Braves were so bad Turner fired Dave Bristol and managed a loss himself. We watched a young Dale Murphy, who hit ok, but was a horrible catcher - and thought "this is our next star??". MSU fans this year would have tarred and feathered Murph for his 6 errors in 17 games; .954 fielding %, with 5 passed balls, and 20 SB allowed with only 5 CS. I'll take those 2 WS over that any day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    In all my years of follwing baseball I've never seen a team have this many injuries, I doubt there was any other team that could've survived what the Braves did this year and make the playoffs. Credit to their culture that they never panicked or wavered and kept fighting. Probably be a short run in the playoffs but i wouldn't put anything past this group. Would be a heckuva story if they somehow won it all.
    Snit deserves to be on the short list for manager of the year. We also didn't go out and get anyone big at the deadline either. I haven't kept up with the team like I normally have. I had to double check on our outfield and third base. Who are those guys? LOL

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    Tonight’s result is because AA has gone cheap on pitching for 2 years straight. Swellenbach is the ONLY reason that he has been bailed out a bit.

    They knew going into this season that elder was a bum, Morton was 40, and Sale and Lopez were big gambles. Those 2 paid off big time but a move had to be made when Strider went down and AA decided for the 2nd year in a row to ride trash 5th starters and basically concede a win. Waldrep wasn’t ready, Shawver wasn’t ready, Elder is a bum and they decided to not even give Ian Anderson a shot.

    They need to let Fried walk, trade for Sonny Gray and get 2 more middle of the rotation guys as insurance in case Lopez, Sale, or Strider have injury concerns next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyDog View Post
    Tonight?s result is because AA has gone cheap on pitching for 2 years straight. Swellenbach is the ONLY reason that he has been bailed out a bit.

    They knew going into this season that elder was a bum, Morton was 40, and Sale and Lopez were big gambles. Those 2 paid off big time but a move had to be made when Strider went down and AA decided for the 2nd year in a row to ride trash 5th starters and basically concede a win. Waldrep wasn?t ready, Shawver wasn?t ready, Elder is a bum and they decided to not even give Ian Anderson a shot.

    They need to let Fried walk, trade for Sonny Gray and get 2 more middle of the rotation guys as insurance in case Lopez, Sale, or Strider have injury concerns next season.
    They scored 0 runs. This offense shouldn't be this bad even without Riley and Acuna

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    They scored 0 runs. This offense shouldn't be this bad even without Riley and Acuna
    No team in the history of baseball has ever had to play a doubleheader followed by a playoff game the next day. Let alone fly across country to play that game after playing a doubleheader. Braves had almost no shot today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    No team in the history of baseball has ever had to play a doubleheader followed by a playoff game the next day. Let alone fly across country to play that game after playing a doubleheader. Braves had almost no shot today.
    Mets won, and let's not pretend this was a new thing. If the Braves allow 3-4 runs, it's an auto loss

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    When the braves give up more than 3 runs this season, they're 11-59.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    I always criticized Bobby Cox for his decision making. But, the thing that set him above so many others was the culture he created within the organization (along with Shurholtz). That was undeniable.
    HOF players would run thru brick walls for the guy. Snit makes a lot of the same type of questionable decisions, but like Bobby, he's built an undeniable culture that wins.

    I saw a stat last night - Since Division play began, the Braves have been to the Postseason 26 of 55 seasons. That's second only to the Yankees.
    They had made 2 prior to 1991. So between Cox and Snit (and a bit of Fredi) that's 24 postseasons in 33 years.
    Another incredible stat - of those 24 postseason, only 3 have been achieved by being a Wild Card. So they aren't getting in by the skin of their teeth.

    Yeah, I'd love to have more than 2 World Series titles. But, I grew up with 1970s and 1980s Braves teams. The first team I really remember was the '77 Braves, where my man Gary Mathews and Jeff Burroughs lead us to a 60-101 record. The Braves were so bad Turner fired Dave Bristol and managed a loss himself. We watched a young Dale Murphy, who hit ok, but was a horrible catcher - and thought "this is our next star??". MSU fans this year would have tarred and feathered Murph for his 6 errors in 17 games; .954 fielding %, with 5 passed balls, and 20 SB allowed with only 5 CS. I'll take those 2 WS over that any day!
    Right there with ya! We grew up the same way and have almost the same exact thought process! You're a good man, Bruns!

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    They scored 0 runs. This offense shouldn't be this bad even without Riley and Acuna
    The Braves have done a poor job this season hitting with runners in scoring position and wasting leadoff extra base hits. I watched Chipper on social media saying he was throwing his flip flops at the tv because of the poor abs with runners on and I was right there with him! The pitching has bee the ride or die this year. If the Braves get a lead or can keep it within 1-2 runs they have a shot but when they get down early the offense just doesn't have the oomph to overcome it.

    ETA too much emphasis on long ball and not on situational hitting. Chipper said it himself AA is only interested in hrs and obp but they have done a poor job situationally. This is not just Braves though it has become an epidemic in the game from mlb on down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Mets won, and let's not pretend this was a new thing. If the Braves allow 3-4 runs, it's an auto loss
    When you are missing Acuna & Riley you are going to struggle like that. Add in the games missed by Ozzie, Olson, Harris, and Murphy and it gets worse.

    I have zero expectation for this team in the post season. They shouldn't even be here - which is the point. Snit deserves a huge amount of credit for creating a culture that can win in spite of all the attrition.
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    The Braves have done a poor job this season hitting with runners in scoring position and wasting leadoff extra base hits. I watched Chipper on social media saying he was throwing his flip flops at the tv because of the poor abs with runners on and I was right there with him! The pitching has bee the ride or die this year. If the Braves get a lead or can keep it within 1-2 runs they have a shot but when they get down early the offense just doesn't have the oomph to overcome it.

    ETA too much emphasis on long ball and not on situational hitting. Chipper said it himself AA is only interested in hrs and obp but they have done a poor job situationally. This is not just Braves though it has become an epidemic in the game from mlb on down.
    Where have I seen this play before..... maybe in DNF this past spring???
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    When you are missing Acuna & Riley you are going to struggle like that. Add in the games missed by Ozzie, Olson, Harris, and Murphy and it gets worse.

    I have zero expectation for this team in the post season. They shouldn't even be here - which is the point. Snit deserves a huge amount of credit for creating a culture that can win in spite of all the attrition.
    100%! When you go down one star player it shortens your lineup, when you go down 2 it REALLY shortens the lineup, and you have Ozzie only able to bat RH(albeit his better side), but he doesn't have a lot of experience seeing pitches from that side.I would love to see them make a run, as it would make a heckuva a great story, but to even make the playoffs was a minor miracle this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Where have I seen this play before..... maybe in DNF this past spring???
    Lol, pretty much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    When you are missing Acuna & Riley you are going to struggle like that. Add in the games missed by Ozzie, Olson, Harris, and Murphy and it gets worse.

    I have zero expectation for this team in the post season. They shouldn't even be here - which is the point. Snit deserves a huge amount of credit for creating a culture that can win in spite of all the attrition.
    Olson didn't miss games. Everyone (save ozuna) has or was having a down year. That's gotta reflect on someone. Either guys didn't put in the work required this offseason, or the coaches can't adjust at all. At the very least, seitzer should be replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Olson didn't miss games. Everyone (save ozuna) has or was having a down year. That's gotta reflect on someone. Either guys didn't put in the work required this offseason, or the coaches can't adjust at all. At the very least, seitzer should be replaced.
    Right about Olson, my mistake. Still, his "down" year was still 29 HR, 98 RBI, and .790 OBPS which is damn good. You just don't get consistency with the lineup in flux all the time the way it was this season.
    And Seitzer is the same guy who in 2023 had a dang Murderers Row performance from the hitters.
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Right about Olson, my mistake. Still, his "down" year was still 29 HR, 98 RBI, and .790 OBPS which is damn good. You just don't get consistency with the lineup in flux all the time the way it was this season.
    And Seitzer is the same guy who in 2023 had a dang Murderers Row performance from the hitters.
    I don't like the approach. We're way too all or nothing. I hate we've turned Ozzie's 70 grade hit tool into a guy trying to hit HRs. After AA invested way too much in kelenic, seitzer broke him with the swing change. I just think with the new dead ball, an organizational shift in hitting philosophy is needed. I admit that I could be overreacting, but this season has been brutal; I watched or listened to like 155 of the games

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I don't like the approach. We're way too all or nothing. I hate we've turned Ozzie's 70 grade hit tool into a guy trying to hit HRs. After AA invested way too much in kelenic, seitzer broke him with the swing change. I just think with the new dead ball, an organizational shift in hitting philosophy is needed. I admit that I could be overreacting, but this season has been brutal; I watched or listened to like 155 of the games
    I wasn't all that fond of Kelenic to begin with.
    It's also a strong statement to say that Seitzer "broke" a guy who is a lifetime .213 hitter.
    AA took a flier and it didn't pay off. He's also young, so it could pay off down the road.
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