Its almost time for FOOTBALL!!!!

[Extendedcab]

Bunch of whining 17tards in this fan base. Bunch of 17ing quitters! We'll win and that bandwagon will suddenly fill up. It's just a shame we have so many fans that aren't SEC caliber fans because they give nothing, support nothing, and bitch a lot.

The fans didn't quit, the players did when NIL became a thing. Now kids do not, for the most part, go to a school because of their alliance to the school, they go pretty much for the money! They are now, no different than the pros, and I don't watch pro sports anymore - a bunch of greedy spoiled brats and thugs.

[confucius say]

The fans didn't quit, the players did when NIL became a thing. Now kids do not, for the most part, go to a school because of their alliance to the school, they go pretty much for the money! They are now, no different than the pros, and I don't watch pro sports anymore - a bunch of greedy spoiled brats and thugs.

Not really. The money is a similar hierachry to what it was when it was dark money, pre NIL. We still compete with the same schools for players. It comes down to opportunity and recruiting again.

It's all about getting the right coach in place. Do that and we will be fine, at least the 7-5/8-4 that Dan had and that Leach had going.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The fans didn't quit, the players did when NIL became a thing. Now kids do not, for the most part, go to a school because of their alliance to the school, they go pretty much for the money! They are now, no different than the pros, and I don't watch pro sports anymore - a bunch of greedy spoiled brats and thugs.

Your big time players have been going for the money for 50 years. The big time players are still going for the money today. Nothing has changed, except it's openly talked about now.

[TrapGame]

Not really. The money is a similar hierachry to what it was when it was dark money, pre NIL. We still compete with the same schools for players. It comes down to opportunity and recruiting again.

It's all about getting the right coach in place. Do that and we will be fine, at least the 7-5/8-4 that Dan had and that Leach had going.

Yep. It's out in the open now and "legal". Hell, I know some guys that ponied up money for Chris Jones and Jeffery Simmons.

[Coach34]

Yep. It's out in the open now and "legal". Hell, I know some guys that ponied up money for Chris Jones and Jeffery Simmons.

I dont stress all that much about NIL in football. Its going to keep the blue bloods on top but its not much different. NIL in baseball however has changed the sport a great deal tho.

My problem is with the portal and the constant movement of players. The ever changing rosters. Total free agency. That ruins it for me

[Goldendawg]

Walter Packer
John Bond
Johnnie Cooks
Don Smith
Rob Fesmire
Tony Shell (we played little league together)
Tony James (we had classes together)
Keo Coleman (he knocked the OM QB the **** out and was the loudest guy at practice ever)
Danny Boyd
Kevin Fant
Kenzaki Jones
Ashley Cooper
Dak Prescott

and I can name 50 more. Most I knew about before they blew up and were top players. I have no idea who is on this team.

Yep. "gonna need a program to know the players", more than ever. At least NFL has contracts and salary caps and CFB needs the same ASAP!

[Goldendawg]

Oh I wasn't doubting you. I get it.
I would just encourage people to put their emotional investment in the name on the front and not the back.

And if it's feelings about individual players that gets people excited, I would encourage those people to get to know the guys we have now. There are dozens of interviews and podcasts out there with them. I'm excited about Shapen, booth, akhauri, Coleman, the four new OL, etc.

Also check out the roster and player bio's on Hail State Football. There are still many players there you know that will get playing time and many young players poised to make a move along with portal players with talent and production at previous stops. The key here is do you have a HC and staff that can mold these players from these various levels (non SEC programs) and backgrounds into a successful team some with only one Spring or an August arrival. I believe Lebby knows this new NIL/portal/recruiting game and will be successful. 7-5 and Hail State!

[Goldendawg]

Yep, lot of new LTD coupes, tractors for family members that farmed and clothing even in the Tyler years and years before. Only problem was that we were usually terrible at playing that game and often got caught! Hail State!

[confucius say]

I dont stress all that much about NIL in football. Its going to keep the blue bloods on top but its not much different. NIL in baseball however has changed the sport a great deal tho.

My problem is with the portal and the constant movement of players. The ever changing rosters. Total free agency. That ruins it for me

Thankfully we've not really had to deal with losing guys to the portal. It's been a net positive for us.

My hope though is that with the new compensation model for players in 2025 comes multi year commitments from players. That could hurt us, but I think it's healthier for game.

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Bunch of whining 17tards in this fan base. Bunch of 17ing quitters! We'll win and that bandwagon will suddenly fill up. It's just a shame we have so many fans that aren't SEC caliber fans because they give nothing, support nothing, and bitch a lot.

What!!!! We've been doing it wrong all this years?? Thanks Cooter for setting us straight, now let's go get that natty it's fun and easy!

[Coach34]

Thankfully we've not really had to deal with losing guys to the portal. It's been a net positive for us.

Got to hand it to the Miskellys, Charlie, and other Bigtime donors:

Our work to hold our own has really been successful.

[TUSK]

Not that y'all are interested in what the resident Bammer thinks... But I started to lose interest when the game became more of a "shoot out", circa late 2010s... I'm more a "5 yards & a cloud of dust" kinda cat.

Thank God that elephants have a good memory...

Hope y'all are well.
Peace.

[Dawgology]

Same boat. I have always enjoyed college football but my interest has waned a good bit. Like it or not, familiarity with players and their allegiance to an Alma mater was a big part of college football. It is what set it apart from professional sports. That is dead. It has become a less professional and less talented version of the NFL. Also, the level of money going to players faaaaaaaaaaaaaar exceeds anything it was before. By a lot. Good for them but this means with the transfer portal we will see a brand new team full of new faces each year. Meh.

[DownwardDawg]

Same boat. I have always enjoyed college football but my interest has waned a good bit. Like it or not, familiarity with players and their allegiance to an Alma mater was a big part of college football. It is what set it apart from professional sports. That is dead. It has become a less professional and less talented version of the NFL. Also, the level of money going to players faaaaaaaaaaaaaar exceeds anything it was before. By a lot. Good for them but this means with the transfer portal we will see a brand new team full of new faces each year. Meh.

I'm afraid it's a dying game. I'm the oldest in the family and the only one that watches games anymore. Wife, 24 year old son, 31 old daughter, son-in-law, grandkids......None of them watch a single game anymore. Not intentionally. They just lost all interest in the game.
I'll watch every chance I get, but I'm not excited like I used to be.

[Turfdawg67]

Welp, we have no shot at the playoffs. No one knows who any of these guys are. CFB has taken an awful turn.

I'm looking forward to watching the games but I'm not investing any emotional capital.

What he said... college football is on life support. If it weren't for my love and devotion for MSU, I probably wouldn't watch any of it this year.

[Cooterpoot]

Same boat. I have always enjoyed college football but my interest has waned a good bit. Like it or not, familiarity with players and their allegiance to an Alma mater was a big part of college football. It is what set it apart from professional sports. That is dead. It has become a less professional and less talented version of the NFL. Also, the level of money going to players faaaaaaaaaaaaaar exceeds anything it was before. By a lot. Good for them but this means with the transfer portal we will see a brand new team full of new faces each year. Meh.

We're on year three of the open portal and that hasn't been the case for us at all. Leach didn't recruit, so this year had a lot coming in but we didn't lose much in the portal. It's been a false narrative so far, but even if we do go big in the portal to win, it's to 17ing win LOL. If we start losing a bunch of players, then I could understand but again, not the case so far. We just have a massive group of people that can't realize it's not 1998. From some leadership at State to, several donors, to a crap load of sidewalk fans. Being on coach 5 since 2017/18 has been far worse.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Phil Steele has us ranked last of all power 4 team at #99 with Vandy close at #97. This is going to be a long year unfortunately.

[Brobi-wan]

I'm afraid it's a dying game. I'm the oldest in the family and the only one that watches games anymore. Wife, 24 year old son, 31 old daughter, son-in-law, grandkids......None of them watch a single game anymore. Not intentionally. They just lost all interest in the game.
I'll watch every chance I get, but I'm not excited like I used to be.

I’m 26. None of my friends watch it. I don’t think this has much to do with the current state of college football. More to do with young people’s short attention spans and much more interest in video games than real sports. All my friends would rather play Call of Duty instead of watch a 3 hour football game.

[confucius say]

What he said... college football is on life support. If it weren't for my love and devotion for MSU, I probably wouldn't watch any of it this year.

Ratings are at an all time high

[Dawgology]

We're on year three of the open portal and that hasn't been the case for us at all. Leach didn't recruit, so this year had a lot coming in but we didn't lose much in the portal. It's been a false narrative so far, but even if we do go big in the portal to win, it's to 17ing win LOL. If we start losing a bunch of players, then I could understand but again, not the case so far. We just have a massive group of people that can't realize it's not 1998. From some leadership at State to, several donors, to a crap load of sidewalk fans. Being on coach 5 since 2017/18 has been far worse.

I hear what you are saying. You are wrong. But I hear you. I’m not a sidewalk fan. Got my bachelor and grad from there. Donate. Don’t miss a game for almost 18 years. Over the past three years where I have not been but to a game or two. Watch them on tv when I can. I have MANY friends that are the same. Grads. Donors. Lost interest. Additionally, we are not close to the only school experiencing this.