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06-28-2024, 10:24 AM
#401
Something is going on with our baseball recruiting. Blame the negativity around it, blame a coach who can't recruit in the portal era, blame poor NIL, blame Starkville, whatever. It's just damn bad!! We need some damn energy injected into this SOB!
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06-28-2024, 10:29 AM
#402

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Something is going on with our baseball recruiting. Blame the negativity around it, blame a coach who can't recruit in the portal era, blame poor NIL, blame Starkville, whatever. It's just damn bad!!
It is. I again keep harping on it, I think it's Starkville. I don't think it's NIL, Lemonis, Parker, Gautreau, etc. They may play a part in it, but players will still go play for bad teams. Hell TCU went 33-21 last year and didn't even make the tournament. But Ft. Worth is lot more desirable than Starkville if the NIL is around the same. I mean just take Ft. Worth for example. If players come on a visit, you have The Stockyards, downtown Ft. Worth, and Dallas 30 minutes away. When they come visit Starkville, they have 3 bars, 9 Mexican restaurants, a dead campus, and Birmingham 2 hours away.
And btw, this is coming from someone who loves Starkville and loves Mississippi St. But we have to change perception. Far too long the perception of Starkville is quiet college town and no one ever tried to deny it. We have to start growing the Cotton District, downtown, attracting businesses, and for the love of God.....START RECRUITING OUT OF STATE STUDENTS.
Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 06-28-2024 at 10:31 AM.
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06-28-2024, 10:31 AM
#403

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
That would be interesting. Be good pickup for them. Be interesting to see what would happen with Steven Milam or Michael Braswell if they did that.
went on to say that Braswell is their #2 option
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06-28-2024, 10:32 AM
#404

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
went on to say that Braswell is their #2 option
So their everyday SS from last year and 3rd leading hitter is their #2 option.....if that's the case I feel confident he'll be in the portal pretty quickly no matter what happens.
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06-28-2024, 10:35 AM
#405

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
It is. I again keep harping on it, I think it's Starkville. I don't think it's NIL, Lemonis, Parker, Gautreau, etc. They may play a part in it, but players will still go play for bad teams. Hell TCU went 33-21 last year and didn't even make the tournament. But Ft. Worth is lot more desirable than Starkville if the NIL is around the same. I mean just take Ft. Worth for example. If players come on a visit, you have The Stockyards, downtown Ft. Worth, and Dallas 30 minutes away. When they come visit Starkville, they have 3 bars, 9 Mexican restaurants, a dead campus, and Birmingham 2 hours away.
And btw, this is coming from someone who loves Starkville and loves Mississippi St. But we have to change perception. Far too long the perception of Starkville is quiet college town and no one ever tried to deny it. We have to start growing the Cotton District, downtown, attracting businesses, and for the love of God.....START RECRUITING OUT OF STATE STUDENTS.
I think Starkville is the least of those. I think NIL took a hit this year with football taking more (I'm ok with that). I also think Lemonis isn't very good but this was a Parker recruit so I agree, we probably try to stay in the same NIL ballpark as other schools when we need to offer more, but don't have it this time.
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06-28-2024, 10:35 AM
#406

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
So their everyday SS from last year and 3rd leading hitter is their #2 option.....if that's the case I feel confident he'll be in the portal pretty quickly no matter what happens.
That Matt Mascona for you
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06-28-2024, 10:45 AM
#407

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Goodbye LaPour, hope we fed you well. Enjoy TCU! Man we can't sell shi t. We're rapidly headed toward a really bad season next year.
TCU signed a top WSU portal kid last year (Payton Tolle) and that kid did great. So that's a pipeline effect of Wichita to Dallas.
Also LaPour had become a national recruit.
Last edited by The Federalist Engineer; 06-28-2024 at 11:27 AM.
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06-28-2024, 10:48 AM
#408

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
I think Starkville is the least of those. I think NIL took a hit this year with football taking more (I'm ok with that). I also think Lemonis isn't very good but this was a Parker recruit so I agree, we probably try to stay in the same NIL ballpark as other schools when we need to offer more, but don't have it this time.
Well and unfortunately, I think baseball players are now going to start trying be like football and basketball and ask for exorbitant amounts. See the Moffett kid at LSU for example. A kid like that is worth nowhere near what he is asking. It's going to take a bigger commitment from baseball boosters if they want to stay competitive in NIL. At the end of the day, we just need more money because like you said, our NIL focus this spring/summer was basketball and football(which like you I am ok with).
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06-28-2024, 10:50 AM
#409

Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
TCU signed a top WSU portal kid last year and that kid did great. So that's a pipeline.
Also LaPour had become a national recruit.
Be interesting to see if Sarloos can turn it around there next year. I have my doubts.
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06-28-2024, 11:19 AM
#410

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
I think Starkville is the least of those. I think NIL took a hit this year with football taking more (I'm ok with that). I also think Lemonis isn't very good but this was a Parker recruit so I agree, we probably try to stay in the same NIL ballpark as other schools when we need to offer more, but don't have it this time.
Our nil offers are competitive at the very least. And in some cases more than what they got at the places they chose.
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06-28-2024, 03:16 PM
#411

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Our nil offers are competitive at the very least. And in some cases more than what they got at the places they chose.
And there's the answer- Lemonis
We all know he's not a recruiter and sits up on that natty. When kids say they feel like he treats them like they're just lucky to talk him, it's not going to work.
Hopefully he's gone next year. This staff has proven for three years their lazy is relentless.
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06-28-2024, 03:42 PM
#412
I know a few who felt that way. One went elsewhere and a couple more are leaning that way. said he acted like a tour guide.
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06-28-2024, 05:03 PM
#413
Utah Valley State Daniel Dickinson has entered the Transfer Portal. Dickinson hit .367 with 14 doubles, two triples, 18 homers and 53 RBis this past season (1.131 OPS).
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06-28-2024, 05:06 PM
#414
Georgetown Christian Ficca, who hit .344 with 11 homers and 64 RBIs, entered as well.
Florida P Cade Fisher also entered. Fisher had 76 K's in 59.1 innings this past season.
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06-28-2024, 06:54 PM
#415

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
And there's the answer- Lemonis
We all know he's not a recruiter and sits up on that natty. When kids say they feel like he treats them like they're just lucky to talk him, it's not going to work.
Hopefully he's gone next year. This staff has proven for three years their lazy is relentless.
In effective, maybe. Lazy isn't it. At all.
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06-28-2024, 09:53 PM
#416

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
In effective, maybe. Lazy isn't it. At all.
Sure it is. Teams and players talk and Lemonis does the minimum. Even he admitted they got lazy and it shows. He's drawings check and chasing mediocrity.
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06-28-2024, 10:03 PM
#417

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Sure it is. Teams and players talk and Lemonis does the minimum. Even he admitted they got lazy and it shows. He's drawings check and chasing mediocrity.
That's your take and I know I'm not changing your mind. It's not correct but I'll digress
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06-28-2024, 10:23 PM
#418

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
That's your take and I know I'm not changing your mind. It's not correct but I'll digress
Any thoughts on what we could do to improve our portal haul?
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06-28-2024, 10:27 PM
#419

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
Any thoughts on what we could do to improve our portal haul?
Hire a new HC. But I'm in the Mad Dog Margaritas tonight. My head will hurt tomorrow, but I won't strike out a 1/4 of what Lemonis does.
Think about this:
1st time HC Lebby is killing recruiting at a low end football school
Jans is killing recruiting at a bad basketball school
Lemonis is sucking at a baseball power house
Anyone that doesn't believe he's 75% the problem is lost, blind, and foolish.
It took yall a long time to accept Foxy was a disaster when I was telling yall he was. But it became obvious eventually and this will too
Last edited by Cooterpoot; 06-28-2024 at 10:44 PM.
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06-28-2024, 10:58 PM
#420

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Hire a new HC. But I'm in the Mad Dog Margaritas tonight. My head will hurt tomorrow, but I won't strike out a 1/4 of what Lemonis does.
Think about this:
1st time HC Lebby is killing recruiting at a low end football school
Jans is killing recruiting at a bad basketball school
Lemonis is sucking at a baseball power house
Anyone that doesn't believe he's 75% the problem is lost, blind, and foolish.
It took yall a long time to accept Foxy was a disaster when I was telling yall he was. But it became obvious eventually and this will too
I cannot disagree.
I wish someone who knows the program intimately would speak up.
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