Reply With QuoteNo we aren't a lock because we lost to teams like Central Arkansas. If you beat those teams your RPI doesn't go down nearly as much and that is a fact.Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
It's not like we can predict RPI preseason. We could schedule La Tech next year and their RPI might be 100.
No we aren't a lock because we lost to teams like Central Arkansas. If you beat those teams your RPI doesn't go down nearly as much and that is a fact.
This is the current RPI number one team. What a murderer's row like Texas Southern!**
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Exactamundo. You can project what a team has- but knowing how RPI will shape up is a guess.
aGAIN I say- take our 2 worst losses off this season and we are easily 10 points higher in RPI. Its not what you scheduled as much as it is who you lost to
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
It's really dumb to argue against an indisputably mathematically correct statement like "We played too many teams that lowered our RPI, despite the fact that we beat them, and are now suffering the consequences." Mt. St. Mary's, Alcorn State, and North Alabama consistently have RPIs in the 275-300 range, and we've all known for years that playing teams like that lowers your RPI even when you beat them.
Sure, we could have had a better record and gotten into the hosting range despite playing those teams, but even in that case we would be kicking ourselves for being the #12 national seed and playing on the road in the Supers instead of being the #6 or so. The fact remains that we knew we were setting ourselves up to be underseeded when we made the schedule and did it anyway. I don't know why this objectively true statement is facing pushback.
If Alcorn State usually had an RPI in the 150 range and just randomly was worse than 300 this year, I wouldn't blame anyone for scheduling them, and I wouldn't have used them as an example. Like, jeez, give me some credit for basic decency and reasonableness.
Obviously I know that you can't always predict where everyone's RPI is going to end up. But we could and should have predicted that Mt. St. Mary's, Alcorn, and North Alabama were going to be bad enough to hurt our resume even with a win. Huge self-inflicted error on our part.
This team is HOSTING. BOOK IT. There is a segment of p u s s y fans that can’t stand that Lemons is the right coach for this team. Get over it, LOSERS
The only way this team hosts is that we make a deep run in Hoover, enough to get our RPI back into the teens, and then we get lucky and the selection committee takes that into account and lets us host.
It's not impossible, but it would be a departure from the way the committee has worked for the last few years.
Our OOC schedule was one of the worst in the country.
If we win a couple in Hoover, sure
Todd, you told me 20 times our non conference didn't matter bc conference play will work everything out. Well, you were wrong. That's ok, it happens.
This thread is so funny to me. People just can't admit when they are wrong.
Another fact. If instead of Mt. St. Mary's (who we knew beforehand would likely have an RPI worse than 250, probably closer to 300 and would hurt our resume three times even if we swept), we'd played just one of these teams, we would likely be hosting:
- Arkansas State
- Northwestern State
- Charleston Southern
- Texas A&M Corpus Christi
- UTRGV
This isn't "play a good team and lose to them." This is play a team around 200 in RPI instead of a team around 300 in RPI. Would any of those teams have been willing to play us? Probably. But if all 5 were unavailable, there's about a dozen more we could have reached out to.
We knew that a weekend series against Mt. St. Mary's, in addition to playing several more midweek games against teams of that caliber, would hurt our RPI. No matter where we ended up in our record, it was going to cost us something. Cost us a top 8 seed, cost us a hosting bid (hey that's probably what happened!), cost us a 2 seed, cost us making a Regional at all, something. We were destined to end up a little bit worse than our record would typically get us.
What's the best case scenario now? We make a deep run in Hoover, maybe win it, get our RPI up and the committee makes a late change and lets us host after all. That would be awesome. If that happens, the usual suspects are going to be all like "haha I told you we would end up hosting!!!" and gloat and beat their chest. But actually, my earlier statement still holds. A team that goes 17-13 and wins the SEC Tournament is usually going to get a top 8 national seed, or maybe barely missing it. Instead in that scenario, we'll be like #13 or maybe worse.
So if we do make that run in Hoover, our poorly made schedule still cost us something, it's just a top 8 seed rather than a hosting bid overall. Don't let the usual suspects gloat if that happens.
Are we not in contention to host?
And no responses to the RPI 1 schedule I gave which included two SWAC teams. I could link others and again- no response will be given because it proves their point wrong.
If you win your OOC games RPI will not go down much if at all.
When you play teams in the bottom 50 or so it does. Come on, we all know that and have discussed it when it happened this year.
I don't understand why you are trying to die on this hill that the schedule wasn't a problem. It was. We should be gaming our schedule every year to maximize RPI, hiring mathematical consultants if necessary. Instead we do the opposite and suffer the consequences.
You really think playing Arkansas State would have made that much of a difference? Seriously? That's what you're going with here? LOL. Their RPI was 211. Northwestern State was RPI 179. It's all quadrant four. Re-arranging deck chairs for the same result.
When you find that crystal ball to game RPI let Chris Lemonis know. In fact why don't you tell me right now who is going to have a satisfactory RPI and what it will be right now?
Also explain how come when we played and beat Mizzou our RPI didn't go down Thursday or Friday? That in and of itself proves you wrong right there.
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This is RPI 2- good thing their crystal ball figured out that James Madison would be RPI 44 like we all knew.
And oh look at that- Arkansas Pine Bluff.
RPI 3 Kentucky. Everyone knew South Carolina Upstate would be RPI 87 and Lipscomb who has been a decent team would be RPI 221. Obviously.**
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