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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Have been to nearly all home games. Tolu has improved on his FT's in the first half, but struggles in the 2nd half as he starts to tire. This has cost us at some critical times late in recent games when we needed the points. I also think our D has suffered lately as the players have tired legs from Jans D first philosophy. We have given up a lot of points in these losses in this streak. We are not going to out score any quality teams playing their game into the 70's or 80's, especially when we are usually playing 3 on 5 with our lack of scorers when on offense.
two things on TS. 1st the last few games he has been getting mugged and getting out muscled by the other team. The refs are "letting them play" now and he is getting intimidated at the onset of the game. Secondly Jans said he hurt himself in practice but didn't say when during the TAM postgame interview. Maybe let JB start the game so he can outphysical the cocks then have TS come in.
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Originally Posted by
parabrave
two things on TS. 1st the last few games he has been getting mugged and getting out muscled by the other team. The refs are "letting them play" now and he is getting intimidated at the onset of the game. Secondly Jans said he hurt himself in practice but didn't say when during the TAM postgame interview. Maybe let JB start the game so he can outphysical the cocks then have TS come in.
Tolu got hurt last Friday before the Auburn game
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Tolu won?t show up. He rarely does in the games that mean the most
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Big game on campus and a must win game. Wish all the students were there, maybe some local holdovers will fill up the Hump.
Its senior day and I think we come out ready to go.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgology
Tolu won?t show up. He rarely does in the games that mean the most
I would start JB. Jans has done it in the past and got a good game out of him. Also need Shak and KM to show up. They have all but disappeared during this losing streak.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgology
Tolu won?t show up. He rarely does in the games that mean the most
Define most and big. He had 21 against uk had 23 against UT. Sure he's had some off games but it's not like it's always in the "big" ones. Which I think all of them are big.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Define most and big. He had 21 against uk had 23 against UT. Sure he's had some off games but it's not like it's always in the "big" ones. Which I think all of them are big.
Our fans define big games as the ones we lose.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Our fans define big games as the ones we lose.
I'm not sure how one averages 16.5 pt and 8 rebounds in a conference schedule only and he never shows up in the big games. Just don't get it.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Guess I'm letting my pessimism get the best of me but, at this point, I'm expecting the men's team to collapse and keep losing just like the women did. Seems like, since the baseball NC, MSU sports has just been one disappointment after another so its probably best to keep expectations very low and if we get anything better than that, be grateful and happy. I've gotten very cynical with college sports anyway with all the NIL/transfer portal stuff.
Collapse is now complete. I could feel it in my bones. Getting really difficult to enjoy any MSU sports.
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I think we're in the same position as last year now - win a game in sect to get a play in game. Maybe we get it, maybe we don't... I'm done caring
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I think we're in the same position as last year now - win a game in sect to get a play in game. Maybe we get it, maybe we don't... I'm done caring
Told you, this is the exact same team as last year.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Collapse is now complete. I could feel it in my bones. Getting really difficult to enjoy any MSU sports.
Right there with you
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I think we're in the same position as last year now - win a game in sect to get a play in game. Maybe we get it, maybe we don't... I'm done caring
Exactly, at the moment we can't beat tournament quality teams so even if we got in we aren't going anywhere.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Exactly, at the moment we can't beat tournament quality teams so even if we got in we aren't going anywhere.
I still want it even if we lose. It makes it easier to recruit for jans
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Regular season comparisons
2023: 20-11, 49 NET, 4-8 Q1
2024: 19-11, 39 NET, 3-8 Q1
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Originally Posted by
MoreCowbell
Regular season comparisons
2023: 20-11, 49 NET, 4-8 Q1
2024: 19-11, 39 NET, 3-8 Q1
Probably fall around 5 spots in net, so little better this season
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Still pretty disappointed that we basically did not improve with everyone returning plus adding one of the best freshman in the country.
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Originally Posted by
MoreCowbell
Still pretty disappointed that we basically did not improve with everyone returning plus adding one of the best freshman in the country.
You are all still operating on the premise that everyone else stayed the same. Tennessee is better, Kentucky is better, Auburn is better, OM is better, A&M is better, Florida is better, Bama is better, USCe is better. We are better but everyone else that was better than us last year got better and teams that were at our level or a little worse got better.
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Originally Posted by
MoreCowbell
Still pretty disappointed that we basically did not improve with everyone returning plus adding one of the best freshman in the country.
We just don't make stops in the halfcourt like we did last year. I'm not sure if its just people have figure Jans out or what but if we had Hubbard with last year's defense we would be significantly better. We just didn't make enough stops today.
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Well we just played the hardest 4 game stretch in the entire NCAA and had 2 close losses with our big man okaying hurt for 3 of the games.
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