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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    I agree we're not poor and I know about where we are at as well. While baseball players are different 95% are still going where the money is, it's why they're so many transfers, the money. Lsu bought a nc last year by buying skenes and Tommy white among others, nil is a huge deal more so than anything. Go hang out at some of the big summer tournaments and that's just about all these kids are talking about is how much nil they're getting offered. Things have changed big time even in baseball. I 100% agree that we should be in regionals pretty much every year and hosting at least every couple. We have work to do on the field and let's hope this season is better than the last 2! You're a good Dawg Base and I always appreciate your opinion!
    There is a reason we finished at the bottom last couple years. It wasn’t because of NIL. There are only a handful of schools who are gonna pay big NIL money for baseball players. Football pays the bills no doubt and more schools are gonna spend way more on football with NIL.
    Lemonis fell asleep at wheel, I’m pulling for him, I hope we compete and do well. But I’m in a wait and see mode, as things have been bad on the field as well as off.

    Thanks Cc24, I respect your opinion as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    exactly. Fans need to understand-

    Money has replaced tradition. Tradition is gone.
    Most schools or programs could care less about baseball. We do, you seem to be making excuses for our situation. Coaching has a lot to do with winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    There is a reason we finished at the bottom last couple years. It wasn’t because of NIL. There are only a handful of schools who are gonna pay big NIL money for baseball players. Football pays the bills no doubt and more schools are gonna spend way more on football with NIL.
    Lemonis fell asleep at wheel, I’m pulling for him, I hope we compete and do well. But I’m in a wait and see mode, as things have been bad on the field as well as off.

    Thanks Cc24, I respect your opinion as well.
    No doubt the last two years have sucked for sure and it ultimately falls on the head coaches shoulders. I'm in wait and see too and hope lemonis gets it corrected if he doesn't I'll be the first to say we need a change because he's had ample chances to fix it. Time to crap or get off the pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Most schools or programs could care less about baseball.
    Today they do. There are at least 75 teams that care. Probably closer to 150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Today they do. There are at least 75 teams that care. Probably closer to 150
    Tell me how many put 33,000 for a 3 game series. Most want pay 6 figures for college baseball player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Today they do. There are at least 75 teams that care. Probably closer to 150
    We are in the top level of baseball programs or at least we should be. I disagree with your logic, it’s college baseball 34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Tell me how many put 33,000 for a 3 game series. Most want pay 6 figures for college baseball player.
    That's different from an administration caring and being willing to give resources to make a team competitive. More admins see it for growth potential. Besides NIL, MLB cutting the number of minor league teams has opened up higher quality players to fill out rosters. It's having a trickle down effect. Schools that have had potential but hadn't sustained winning - like UGA - are going all in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    We are in the top level of baseball programs or at least we should be. I disagree with your logic, it’s college baseball 34.
    We are a Top 25 program sure. Nobody denies that. But we are in a sport that Coastal Carolina and Fresno State can win it all. Baseball is a Top 200 sport whereas football and basketball arent. Thats what so many dont get
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    That's different from an administration caring and being willing to give resources to make a team competitive. More admins see it for growth potential. Besides NIL, MLB cutting the number of minor league teams has opened up higher quality players to fill out rosters. It's having a trickle down effect. Schools that have had potential but hadn't sustained winning - like UGA - are going all in.
    And that should help us, not hurt us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    That's different from an administration caring and being willing to give resources to make a team competitive. More admins see it for growth potential. Besides NIL, MLB cutting the number of minor league teams has opened up higher quality players to fill out rosters. It's having a trickle down effect. Schools that have had potential but hadn't sustained winning - like UGA - are going all in.
    The minor league cuts have had a huge effect on college and juco baseball. A lot of players that would've been drafted are now in juco or college. I said it in an earlier post college baseball is more competitive than it's ever been. Heck it's nothing to go to a juco game and see kids throwing mid 90s that didn't happen until Covid and the minor league consolidation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We are a Top 25 program sure. Nobody denies that. But we are in a sport that Coastal Carolina and Fresno State can win it all. Baseball is a Top 200 sport whereas football and basketball arent. Thats what so many dont get
    Probably because those two schools you mentioned has better coaching. Coaches can attract players also. They also can motivate there players and be good in fundamentals. We pay good money for baseball coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Probably because those two schools you mentioned has better coaching. Coaches can attract players also. They also can motivate there players and be good in fundamentals. We pay good money for baseball coaches.
    Coaching only goes so far- especially the higher you go. Billy Martin couldn’t have gotten our team least year to a Super Regional. Talent and experience matter bigtime. Baseball is just different. Coastal and Fresno show this sport ain’t like the other 2. We set attendance records for years under Polk and he couldn’t win a title. So tell me- how important is attendance?
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    No excuses to be last and next to last in Sec for MSU. Polk had at least 3 teams that should have won a Natty. We won one, we can do it again, don’t tell me we can’t. Gotta coach dem up 34. Usm has a better program than us lately and they don’t have much NIL money.

    Too many excuses. I’m out. Take care, we agree to disagree. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    I was not saying fire him now. I was saying it is only a matter of time
    I know. You said he it's over and he will be fired this year.
    Maybe you will be right.
    Maybe it will look like a horrible overreaction to one inning in mid February.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    And that should help us, not hurt us.
    It has and will hurt us. UGA caring about baseball means 1 more major school with more resources to recruit against. UGA had some of the worst facilities in the SEC and could give a shit the past 40 years and still has as many Nattys as MSU. Them actually caring changes the trajectory of all that Metro Atl talent overnight, not to mention the damn good players in places like Albany, Warner Robins and Columbus who end up on a lot of SEC rosters (including ours). They will have NIL to burn, and will start landing guys like Landon Sims who they would have never been in the race for before.

    I'm not the type to panic about sleeping giants being awakened (like some who fear A&M football), but I got to go to a UGA donor event last year to preview their facilities plan and talk with Coach Strickland. I told my UGA friends after that if they are going all in, the sign will be firing Strick and getting a big name. Lo and behold they dump him and get Wes. He's the type that could build a machine in Athens.

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    the autism is strong strong in here

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    We will be ok as long as we have the correct Coach. I don't expect us to win a Natty every year, I understand competition, but BY Far the Sec is the best in college baseball league in the country. No reason we want or can't compete.

    you guys saying tradition doesn't matter, but every time we host schools across the country to a weekend series or regional games, there fans and players rave about our fans, stadium and atmosphere, go read what AF just said about their experience in StarkVegas.

    There are many baseball players in America from "Small Town" America, we can compete no doubt! I hope we get back to Msu baseball with our tradition, our last two years were as bad as I have seen since the great Paul Gregory retired, the following year was miserable. Been going and watching baseball since 1970, I ain't giving up with BS we ain't what we use to. I just want to win and get it going what we have been over the decades, fill the stadium up and host regionals and go to CWS "some". It's just that simple. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    We will be ok as long as we have the correct Coach. I don't expect us to win a Natty every year, I understand competition, but BY Far the Sec is the best in college baseball league in the country. No reason we want or can't compete.

    you guys saying tradition doesn't matter, but every time we host schools across the country to a weekend series or regional games, there fans and players rave about our fans, stadium and atmosphere, go read what AF just said about their experience in StarkVegas.

    There are many baseball players in America from "Small Town" America, we can compete no doubt! I hope we get back to Msu baseball with our tradition, our last two years were as bad as I have seen since the great Paul Gregory retired, the following year was miserable. Been going and watching baseball since 1970, I ain't giving up with BS we ain't what we use to. I just want to win and get it going what we have been over the decades, fill the stadium up and host regionals and go to CWS "some". It's just that simple. LOL.
    I'm just going to chime in and say that you are spot on with everything you've said in this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckdog View Post
    the autism is strong strong in here
    LOL, I can't stop laughing!!

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    I still say Lemo is a good coach. Something has just been off. But I really believe we will be a tournament team this year. By next we will be back in regional hosting discussion. Maybe I’m overly optimistic. But the dude won so many freaking games his first season. Was looking pretty dang good in his second before the Covid crap. Then won a natty. I just think we had one awful year and we didnt rebound from it fast. I still say Lenoncan coach. I can absolutely be proven wrong tho.
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