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02-18-2024, 08:33 PM
#101

Originally Posted by
Bothrops
I'm starting to believe we've got fans who are invested in sports over simply wanting to fire coaches.
I invest in State sports to win. Lemonis hasnt done that in a long time. With better toys than 98 percent of college baseball to play with
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02-18-2024, 08:43 PM
#102

Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
I invest in State sports to win. Lemonis hasnt done that in a long time. With better toys than 98 percent of college baseball to play with
We dont have anything the Top 50 baseball programs dont have- if not more. It's not 1988 anymore.
We just have a better stadium
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02-18-2024, 08:46 PM
#103

Originally Posted by
Coach34
We dont have anything the Top 50 baseball programs dont have- if not more. It's not 1988 anymore.
We just have a better stadium
Yep
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02-18-2024, 08:50 PM
#104

Originally Posted by
Coach34
We dont have anything the Top 50 baseball programs dont have- if not more. It's not 1988 anymore.
We just have a better stadium
100% accurate. The arms race has been on for awhile now especially in the sec. Competition in college baseball is at a higher level than it's ever been.
Heck even wake forest has one of the finest pitching labs in the country. To many of our fans don't understand what's going in college baseball around the country.
Last edited by Commercecomet24; 02-18-2024 at 08:52 PM.
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02-18-2024, 08:59 PM
#105

Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
100% accurate. The arms race has been on for awhile now especially in the sec. Competition in college baseball is at a higher level than it's ever been.
Heck even wake forest has one of the finest pitching labs in the country. To many of our fans don't understand what's going in college baseball around the country.
So many fans just dont understand baseball. It's frustrating.
Fresno State, Coastal Carolina, Oregon State- have titles and recently. Coastal is ranked again and good. This aint football or basketball. It's a different sport.
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02-18-2024, 09:08 PM
#106

Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
100% accurate. The arms race has been on for awhile now especially in the sec. Competition in college baseball is at a higher level than it's ever been.
Heck even wake forest has one of the finest pitching labs in the country. To many of our fans don't understand what's going in college baseball around the country.
I'm not sure how sustainable Wake Forest is over the long term. It's only a matter of time before Muscara gets a HC job and then they'll have to find someone equally as good to replace him. And when he leaves he'll probably take most of their pitching analytics people with him.
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02-18-2024, 09:11 PM
#107

Originally Posted by
Coach34
So many fans just dont understand baseball. It's frustrating.
Fresno State, Coastal Carolina, Oregon State- have titles and recently. Coastal is ranked again and good. This aint football or basketball. It's a different sport.
Really it's just the SEC now. So you're really talking about maybe 20 programs that have a realistic shot at a NC.
Look at the CWS finalists since 2010 and compare to any other decade and you'll see what I'm talking about. Elite players want to play in the SEC and the California kids are coming to the SEC because they want to play in front of people.
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02-18-2024, 09:36 PM
#108
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02-18-2024, 09:38 PM
#109

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I'm not sure how sustainable Wake Forest is over the long term. It's only a matter of time before Muscara gets a HC job and then they'll have to find someone equally as good to replace him. And when he leaves he'll probably take most of their pitching analytics people with him.
Oh I agree I was just making the point that there's a whole lot of programs out there with the same stuff we have, but we do have the BEST stadium!
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02-18-2024, 09:43 PM
#110

Originally Posted by
Coach34
So many fans just dont understand baseball. It's frustrating.
Fresno State, Coastal Carolina, Oregon State- have titles and recently. Coastal is ranked again and good. This aint football or basketball. It's a different sport.
You got that right! We have so many on here that treat baseball like football or basketball and it ain't! Baseball is a chess match and the most talented teams don't always win. It's not a sprint it's a marathon.
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02-18-2024, 09:45 PM
#111

Originally Posted by
Coach34
We dont have anything the Top 50 baseball programs dont have- if not more. It's not 1988 anymore.
We just have a better stadium
And we all know that NIL has significantly lessened the importance of facilities when recruiting players.
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02-18-2024, 09:46 PM
#112

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
And we all know that NIL has significantly lessened the importance of facilities when recruiting players.
Yep. Nothings the same as was 5 years ago with nil now.
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02-18-2024, 09:46 PM
#113

Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Oh I agree I was just making the point that there's a whole lot of programs out there with the same stuff we have, but we do have the BEST stadium!
Best fans who support baseball at MSU. Been this was for decades, never underestimate what we have, top 3 in the country with LSU and Arkansas you can add Ole Dixie also. Ain’t no one close to the ones I mentioned.
I also think Msufans are pretty knowledgeable about baseball. Makes me sick to have finished last and next to last. Shouldn’t have happened after winning a Natty if anything we should have benefited, we did not. Ain’t the fans fault either.
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02-18-2024, 09:49 PM
#114

Originally Posted by
basedog
Best fans who support baseball at MSU. Been this was for decades, never underestimate what we have, top 3 in the country with LSU and Arkansas you can add Ole Dixie also. Ain?t no one close to the ones I mentioned.
I also think Msufans are pretty knowledgeable about baseball. Makes me sick to have finished last and next to last. Shouldn?t have happened after winning a Natty if anything we should have benefited, we did not. Ain?t the fans fault either.
The stadium, our fans and the atmosphere, there's nothing else like it in college baseball.
NIL and the portal has changed thing for the worse, unfortunately
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02-18-2024, 09:53 PM
#115

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
And we all know that NIL has significantly lessened the importance of facilities when recruiting players.
THIS all day. NIL is changing baseball also. They may not have the 5K fans watching them play- but if a school will pay? They will go there.
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02-18-2024, 09:56 PM
#116

Originally Posted by
Coach34
THIS all day. NIL is changing baseball also. They may not have the 5K fans watching them play- but if a school will pay? They will go there.
Stadium, facilities, everything is all secondary to how much they can get paid. 95% could care less how many people are in the stands.
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02-18-2024, 10:05 PM
#117

Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Stadium, facilities, everything is all secondary to how much they can get paid. 95% could care less how many people are in the stands.
yep- and our fans at State need to understand that. That big stadium doesnt matter to 2/3 of recruits now
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02-18-2024, 10:12 PM
#118
We have NIL money, we aren’t poor like some think. I have a good friend in the know and he has assured me about where we stand on NIL.
Baseball players are way different compared to football and basketball players. No reason we aren’t consistory in regionals and hosting.
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02-18-2024, 10:34 PM
#119

Originally Posted by
basedog
We have NIL money, we aren’t poor like some think. I have a good friend in the know and he has assured me about where we stand on NIL.
Baseball players are way different compared to football and basketball players. No reason we aren’t consistory in regionals and hosting.
I agree we're not poor and I know about where we are at as well. While baseball players are different 95% are still going where the money is, it's why they're so many transfers, the money. Lsu bought a nc last year by buying skenes and Tommy white among others, nil is a huge deal more so than anything. Go hang out at some of the big summer tournaments and that's just about all these kids are talking about is how much nil they're getting offered. Things have changed big time even in baseball. I 100% agree that we should be in regionals pretty much every year and hosting at least every couple. We have work to do on the field and let's hope this season is better than the last 2! You're a good Dawg Base and I always appreciate your opinion!
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02-18-2024, 10:56 PM
#120

Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
I agree we're not poor and I know about where we are at as well. While baseball players are different 95% are still going where the money is, it's why they're so many transfers, the money. Lsu bought a nc last year by buying skenes and Tommy white among others, nil is a huge deal more so than anything. Go hang out at some of the big summer tournaments and that's just about all these kids are talking about is how much nil they're getting offered. Things have changed big time even in baseball. I 100% agree that we should be in regionals pretty much every year and hosting at least every couple. We have work to do on the field and let's hope this season is better than the last 2! You're a good Dawg Base and I always appreciate your opinion!
exactly. Fans need to understand-
Money has replaced tradition. Tradition is gone.
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