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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Yep. This. And I wouldn't be surprised if we finish the season strong when we are healthier and we know our roles.
    I agree with this! And if he bombs there'll be plenty of time for folks to bmc. Outside of Holcombe and one bad inning out of siary the pitching has been much better especially our approach.

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    Given we blew the game today, we desperately need the win tomorrow. This season in particular we needed to be strong out of the gate. Starting the season with a series loss would have everyone thinking "Here we go again". It could all go negative fairly quickly.

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    Just take one game at a time folks. I bet Air Force has pitched all their best arms. We stomp them tomorrow


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    Just take one game at a time folks. I bet Air Force has pitched all their best arms. We stomp them tomorrow

    I'm expecting a strong performance from Loo. Oddly enough our worst starter might be our Friday guy. I also want to see Gavin Black tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Given we blew the game today, we desperately need the win tomorrow. This season in particular we needed to be strong out of the gate. Starting the season with a series loss would have everyone thinking "Here we go again". It could all go negative fairly quickly.
    I'd be more worried about the team psyche than fan perception.

    I think Gautreau needs to step it up some with these guys and treat them more like college players instead of pros for these first four weeks.

    No reason to let the team fail before you build them back up.

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    Let's see:

    Pitching is improved
    Defense is solid with two or three starters out
    Hitting is behind the pitching on a freezing ass cold night with wind howling in
    Baserunning is trash
    Coaching decisions questionable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I'd be more worried about the team psyche than fan perception.

    I think Gautreau needs to step it up some with these guys and treat them more like college players instead of pros for these first four weeks.

    No reason to let the team fail before you build them back up.
    This!! I’m more worried about the offense. We haven’t been able to hit shitry pitching since Gotro got here. A shift lefty shits us completely down. Like I have stated before, how many times have we let a bad pitcher shut us down for 7-8 innings and look clueless…

    I’m also worried about if we fire Lemonis, instead of going and hiring a big name like we can, we just promote Gotro.

    I want that swag Vitello teams play with. Be the assholes. Get some swag for god sakes! All we do Is beat our chest and then roll over a weak ground ball…

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNDawg35 View Post
    This!! I’m more worried about the offense. We haven’t been able to hit shitry pitching since Gotro got here. A shift lefty shits us completely down. Like I have stated before, how many times have we let a bad pitcher shut us down for 7-8 innings and look clueless…

    I’m also worried about if we fire Lemonis, instead of going and hiring a big name like we can, we just promote Gotro.

    I want that swag Vitello teams play with. Be the assholes. Get some swag for god sakes! All we do Is beat our chest and then roll over a weak ground ball…
    That swag Vitello team lost 5-1 to unranked Oklahoma last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Vandy and lsu have earned the benefit of patience. After the last 2 seasons, I think a melt is justified
    THIS! 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    and aGAIN- the 55 games he coaches will decide his fate- not 2 of them
    You miss the point year 3 of the same mistakes does not invoke confidence. it's like catching your wife 17ing the neighbor after the 3rd time do you still want her!

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    My take is simple. I hate to place blame on one kid, but if anybody other than Holcomb pitches the 9th and we win. It’s early and we have to learn what we have. My guess is by sec play Holcomb won’t be pitching much, if any. Our other pitchers looked much better. Stephen was absolutely dealing. We look so much better pitching thus far this season early on outside of Holcomb. Like I said, we are learning who our players are right now. We will win today and have one series under our belt. From my perspective, this team looks the part of a NCAA tournament team. We hit decent yesterday just had no timely hits. That’s the way it falls sometimes. Our hitting will improve weekly.
    Romans 5:8

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    My take is simple. I hate to place blame on one kid, but if anybody other than Holcomb pitches the 9th and we win. It?s early and we have to learn what we have. My guess is by sec play Holcomb won?t be pitching much, if any. Our other pitchers looked much better. Stephen was absolutely dealing. We look so much better pitching thus far this season early on outside of Holcomb. Like I said, we are learning who our players are right now. We will win today and have one series under our belt. From my perspective, this team looks the part of a NCAA tournament team. We hit decent yesterday just had no timely hits. That?s the way it falls sometimes. Our hitting will improve weekly.
    This is where I am right now. Holcomb won't see SEC much unless injuries happen. He's a mid week guy with limited innings. The win yesterday was in the bag with good pitching, just blew the end.

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    This has nothing to do with last night, but Lemonis does not have it and that has been clear for a while.

    Holcombe is a perfect example of the irrationality of some of the optimism for this year. The dude walked more than TEN per 9 IP last year, and several thought he would suddenly be our Friday night guy. You just rarely see a jump like that in one year. He was absolutely terrible last year and did not look good again. There is no reason to assume he will be terrible based on last night, but there is reason to think he likely will not be great based on last year, and last night did not inspire more confidence.

    We likely will not be a very good team...because that is what we have proven to be for two years now, and many of our guys are the same and need bigger leaps than is reasonable to assume they will make.

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    It's a long season, and we need to let it play out, but it looks like the SOS from the previous two years. I have zero faith Lemonis is going to turn it around this year. I hope I'm wrong. If he doesn't get it fixed then obviously he's got to go.

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    We may not win another game.
    Or we may make the postseason, in which case this will be one of the all time dumbest thread starters in the history of the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    We may not win another game.
    Or we may make the postseason, in which case this will be one of the all time dumbest thread starters in the history of the board.
    We certainly could make the postseason, but not sure that hope is based on anything but hope. We've missed the sec tourney (forget ncaa) the last 2 seasons, and the sec coaches predict us to miss it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    A) We havent missed Hoover this year.
    B) Manieri won 1 title in 15 seasons. Not "nattys". He didnt win a title his last 13 seasons at LSU.
    C) I'm not defending anything just pointing out the obvious. Good baseball teams lose to doorknobs all the time. Candy lost today. LSU beat the powerhouse of Central Arkansas 2-0 today in a nailbiter. NC State lost today. Florida- 2nd in the country lost to St Johns yesterday. I'm not sure St Johns could beat Southaven 2 outa 3.

    The SEC schedule will decide his fate. Get it done or fire his ass but I'm not going to stress over losing a cold weather game to a team that is used to practicing/playing in the cold.
    Lately I've been against almost everything you've posted but I'm with you on this. We have Lemonis this year. This isn't the time to think about the last two. It's the second game. Let's win today. If he doesn't cut it this year then he's gone. No need in worrying about it. Selmon will only have a tough decision if he makes the tournament as a two/three? seed and gets knocked out right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brobi-wan View Post
    I?m not sure how I feel. I thought giving him another year was the correct call. He?s the only coach with a natty ring in the history of the school. He also recruits at a high level. You can probably chalk up 2022 to some bad injuries. 2023 was unacceptable and this year is a question mark. We didn?t look great, but a lot of the top ten teams, including Arkansas, Florida, and LSU didn?t look good. Ole Miss didn?t look good either. Take it with a grain of salt. If he has a bad year, let?s just hope he doesn?t do just well enough to save his job.
    I don't see the recruiting. He was suppose to be a great recruiter and we're doing just as good, worse than in the past. When can was here the recruits we did get were dirt bags and tough as nails, produced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    I agree with this! And if he bombs there'll be plenty of time for folks to bmc. Outside of Holcombe and one bad inning out of siary the pitching has been much better especially our approach.
    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    This has nothing to do with last night, but Lemonis does not have it and that has been clear for a while.

    Holcombe is a perfect example of the irrationality of some of the optimism for this year. The dude walked more than TEN per 9 IP last year, and several thought he would suddenly be our Friday night guy. You just rarely see a jump like that in one year. He was absolutely terrible last year and did not look good again. There is no reason to assume he will be terrible based on last night, but there is reason to think he likely will not be great based on last year, and last night did not inspire more confidence.

    We likely will not be a very good team...because that is what we have proven to be for two years now, and many of our guys are the same and need bigger leaps than is reasonable to assume they will make.
    Holcombe's issues last night were mechanics. I just don't think he is a relief pitcher. It's a good test for Parker IMO. Holcombe looked strong in the preseason up until his last start. We'll see if he can correct it.

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