7 errors in baseball scrimmage

[CaptainObvious]

Well let's hope 34 is right and the 12 SEC teams in front of State the past two years simply lay down and let State move back into the top 8-10 so sweet cheeks Chris and keep his job!

I feel pretty damn confident that all of them, including Alabama and UGA who don't give a rats ass about baseball as a Fanbase, also got better this year. So usually if everybody ahead of you gets better and you trust the roster you had from a bad season to make you a better coach, it don't usually work out like you want. He is depending on a bunch of previously bad pitchers, weak fielders and inconsistent batters along with a heck of a lot of newcomers to win 6-7 more SEC games this year than last.

I will be watching with a lot of skepticism until his charges show me something. A 2-7 SEC start again will raise huge concerns!

[Coach34]

Excuses are just that. Being young on the mound is not an excuse for running out a flat out terrible team last year. Being top 32 does not show we are on the right path. That would be a meh year for MSU baseball, after two terrible ones. Terrible/terrible/meh is a bad enough stretch for MSU baseball, given where the program was before that, to be fired even after winning a national title. If recruiting has been and remains strong, then we should be winning. No excuses.

lol- you guys are out of your damn mind.

Corbin hasnt made a Super the last 2 years and their program is Top 5 in the country
McDonnell has missed the NCAA Tourney 2 of the last 3 seasons. Is his job on the line this year? Super or fired?
Bunko won the CWS and missed the Tourney last year- would you fire him if he misses again like many of you wanted to do with Lemon?

Top level NCAA Baseball coaching is hard. It's not as easy as it was when Polk was coaching. If we end up Top 32- no way in hell do you make a coaching change. Thats stupid

[Coach34]

Excuses are just that. Being young on the mound is not an excuse for running out a flat out terrible team last year. .

And another reminder- we had a winning record last year. We werent terrible

[Todd4State]

Well let's hope 34 is right and the 12 SEC teams in front of State the past two years simply lay down and let State move back into the top 8-10 so sweet cheeks Chris and keep his job!

I feel pretty damn confident that all of them, including Alabama and UGA who don't give a rats ass about baseball as a Fanbase, also got better this year. So usually if everybody ahead of you gets better and you trust the roster you had from a bad season to make you a better coach, it don't usually work out like you want. He is depending on a bunch of previously bad pitchers, weak fielders and inconsistent batters along with a heck of a lot of newcomers to win 6-7 more SEC games this year than last.

I will be watching with a lot of skepticism until his charges show me something. A 2-7 SEC start again will raise huge concerns!

It's amazing to me how every offseason every team in the SEC gets better except for MSU according to MSU fans.

[basedog]

It's amazing to me how every offseason every team in the SEC gets better except for MSU according to MSU fans.

Last two years we have been as bad as I have seen since the retirement of Paul Greogory. Lemonis was awful in decision making and he let the ship sink. As far as fans at Msu, baseball fans aren't use to losing like football and basketball. And as far as Sec baseball goes, there are only a few teams that aren't going to win much, it's a demanding schedule overall.

I'm looking forward to the season, I just hope I see the real baseball program that I have followed since the very early 70's.

[Todd4State]

Last two years we have been as bad as I have seen since the retirement of Paul Greogory. Lemonis was awful in decision making and he let the ship sink. As far as fans at Msu, baseball fans aren't use to losing like football and basketball. And as far as Sec baseball goes, there are only a few teams that aren't going to win much, it's a demanding schedule overall.

I'm looking forward to the season, I just hope I see the real baseball program that I have followed since the very early 70's.

The worst decision he made was keeping Foxhall after 2022.

[CaptainObvious]

It's amazing to me how every offseason every team in the SEC gets better except for MSU according to MSU fans.

Maybe State did get better. Maybe everybody else got better too. Maybe State's better doesn't trump everybody else's better. My point is does squeaking into the SEC tourney as a 10 seed and squeaking into a Regional as a 2 seed just because SEC count as enough improvement to keep Lemonis if he goes 0-2 or 1-2 in Hoover and doesn't win that Regional? I say it shouldn't save his job, especially knowing what he is losing off this years team and having another rebuild in 2025. State shouldn't rebuild. State should reload.

[basedog]

The worst decision he made was keeping Foxhall after 2022.

Yes, 3rd base was a bad decision on a few levels as well.

[Duckdog]

Reynolds is out for the year

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO what happened??????

[Saltydog]

Well, one thing is for certain. If we struggle in our pre-SEC slate we've got problems. Our pre-SEC schedule is weaker than it's been in years. Just looking at the RPI's from last season it looks like this:

Air Force (3 games): 140
Austin Peay (2): 199
Georgia Southern (3): 104
Jackson State (1): 261
Mount St. Mary's (3): 238
Southern MS (1): 21
Evansville (3): 72
South Alabama (1): 141
New Orleans (1): 94

[Johnson85]

lol- you guys are out of your damn mind.

Corbin hasnt made a Super the last 2 years and their program is Top 5 in the country
McDonnell has missed the NCAA Tourney 2 of the last 3 seasons. Is his job on the line this year? Super or fired?
Bunko won the CWS and missed the Tourney last year- would you fire him if he misses again like many of you wanted to do with Lemon?

Top level NCAA Baseball coaching is hard. It's not as easy as it was when Polk was coaching. If we end up Top 32- no way in hell do you make a coaching change. Thats stupid

I think this is probably right, with the caveat that if you have a talented enough team, you can show plenty of signs of bad coaching while still doing ok. I assume the SEC talent is good enough that if we show the same level of coaching as the past couple of years, we're not going to be able to overcome that and it will be moot. But at least pre-NIL, we were in a position that we didn't have to accept the equivalent of a rich man's Stansbury in basketball. That may have changed now with NIL and most of the SEC caring about baseball.

[SPDawgs]

Had a friend at all 3 scrimmages and he said that while the second and third games were better than the first they were still not very high quality. He is as optimist as it gets. pitching could see some improvement but defense was awful. Said looks like we may be in for another long year

[Saltydog]

And another reminder- we had a winning record last year. We werent terrible

The LOVE FEST continues.........We were freaking 9-21 in the league........Yeah, we were terrible by MSU and SEC standards............

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

It's amazing to me how every offseason every team in the SEC gets better except for MSU according to MSU fans.

We were 14th 2 years ago, 13th last year, and missed on ALL of our top portal targets

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

And another reminder- we had a winning record last year. We werent terrible

13th in the SEC. That's acceptable to you?

EDIT: Arnett was 4-0 in the non con, and you wanted to bring him back too. Guess your at least consistent in prioritizing weak non con over SEC results

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Corbin hasnt made a Super the last 2 years and their program is Top 5 in the country

Did he miss Hoover 2 out of the last 2 seasons?

McDonnell has missed the NCAA Tourney 2 of the last 3 seasons. Is his job on the line this year? Super or fired?

He has SIGNIFICANTLY less resources there. You know that

Bunko won the CWS and missed the Tourney last year- would you fire him if he misses again like many of you wanted to do with Lemon?

If he missed Hoover this season you bet they're firing him- and then fundraising whatever it takes to hire a big name

Top level NCAA Baseball coaching is hard. It's not as easy as it was when Polk was coaching.

14/14 and 13/14. Nobody is asking him to get a national seed every year but not being the doormat of the SEC seems reasonable

If we end up Top 32- no way in hell do you make a coaching change. Thats stupid

The funny thing is that we aren't building this year, we're at a relative peak and will be worse in '25. So a field of 32 finish -basically be 10th in the SEC and get bounced from a regional- is the best he can do in his 6TH SEASON, when his 7th season will be even worse... yeah, why should any fan believe in Lemo? He needs to prove he can actually build a program, not just be mediocre.

We fired JoMo after 2 bowl seasons. We fired Arnett after 1 disaster. Well Lemo has put back to back seasons as bad as what Arnett did, failed to Portal in the talent even you admitted he needed too, and you want to tell me I'm "out of my damned mind" for not believing he's best for us? Wasn't it "Lemonizick" that you called him all last season?

[Coach34]

We had bad luck in 2022 with pitching injuries. Crippled us
2023? Too many Freshman pitchers but still eeked out a winning record

2024? I expect us to make a Super unless something crazy happens. We have the talent to make Omaha. Coaches see what others cant. Let the games begin

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We had bad luck in 2022 with pitching injuries. Crippled us
2023? Too many Freshman pitchers but still eeked out a winning record

2024? I expect us to make a Super unless something crazy happens. We have the talent to make Omaha. Coaches see what others cant. Let the games begin

At lease we agree that anything less than the Supers is an under performance. I think he SHOULD be fired unless he hosts (top 8ish the SEC) or wins a regional as a 2 seed. Making the field of 32 isn't good enough.

[Todd4State]

We were 14th 2 years ago, 13th last year, and missed on ALL of our top portal targets

We missed on all of our top portal targets or just your top targets?

There wasn't a Paul Skenes in this portal class for the mound. Montgomery was a weird situation where our coaches got misled a little bit and not by Braden. We got two potential rotation pieces in Stephens and Ligdon. We needed a third baseman and we got Kohler. We got Cam Schuelke who is a non-traditional JUCO guy who will be a big addition to the bullpen who dominated in the Cape. We got several guys through the draft that could help us out or will be big additions for us- Luke Dotson, Dylan Cupp, Nolan Stevens, Makhai Grant (injured but an elite talent), Jackson McKenzie, and Paul Spalitta. Montgomery would have been very nice to have but he isn't essential. Personally, I think he made a mistake because he could have been surrounded by Hines and Dakota Jordan in the lineup.

The biggest thing we needed was a pitching coach. We got a guy whose pitching staff finished ahead of Wes Johnson's this year and was one of the top staff's in the SEC. Believe it or not- and you don't- but we have some very talented arms that just need coaching. Holcombe, Loo, and Loftin are all MLB.com top 200 draft picks. Two of those guys will almost no doubt be in our rotation. We're not going to get three MLB.com top 200 talent guys through the portal like that.

[Coach34]

We missed on all of our top portal targets or just your top targets?

There wasn't a Paul Skenes in this portal class for the mound. Montgomery was a weird situation where our coaches got misled a little bit and not by Braden. We got two potential rotation pieces in Stephens and Ligdon. We needed a third baseman and we got Kohler. We got Cam Schuelke who is a non-traditional JUCO guy who will be a big addition to the bullpen who dominated in the Cape. We got several guys through the draft that could help us out or will be big additions for us- Luke Dotson, Dylan Cupp, Nolan Stevens, Makhai Grant (injured but an elite talent), Jackson McKenzie, and Paul Spalitta. Montgomery would have been very nice to have but he isn't essential. Personally, I think he made a mistake because he could have been surrounded by Hines and Dakota Jordan in the lineup.

The biggest thing we needed was a pitching coach. We got a guy whose pitching staff finished ahead of Wes Johnson's this year and was one of the top staff's in the SEC. Believe it or not- and you don't- but we have some very talented arms that just need coaching. Holcombe, Loo, and Loftin are all MLB.com top 200 draft picks. Two of those guys will almost no doubt be in our rotation. We're not going to get three MLB.com top 200 talent guys through the portal like that.

Thats what too many arent getting. We dont lack talent. We are top 5 in the SEC in talent. We need the Sophs to take their step forward and the upper guys to play like they are capable. Thats it.