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    In less than 20 years

    We have gone from raising hell about Orgeron illegally paying recruits to visit Grenada Without The Lake to it becoming the legal expectation by recruits now.

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    The NCAA has got to figure something out. What would your suggestions be to curbing all this or do you think it's too far gone? I do think players deserve a right to make money, but there has to be some boundaries set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C&DDAWG32 View Post
    The NCAA has got to figure something out. What would your suggestions be to curbing all this or do you think it's too far gone? I do think players deserve a right to make money, but there has to be some boundaries set.
    Put a cap on it. The NFL has a Salary Cap.

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    need a cap. Title IX I am hoping will help eventually. Everyone can get 50k. The superstar players will still get their money under the table by donating to your uncles roommates church like the good ole days.

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    A ton of mistakes and mis-steps were made by the NCAA. That's where the corruption started. They never fully enforced the rules unless it was on a lower tier team. Their inability to adjust to allow players to capitalize in some sort of way was the down fall. You can't sell shirts with my name on it without paying me for it. So rather than NOT selling the shirts (thus avoiding that situation), they decided to market it to sell more because we can do more.

    The LOVE of money is an issue, but there is no money without the people called fans. Nobody watching... no advertisers. Nobody in the seats... no ticket sales, no concession sales. It all come back to the people who support the sport by watching and buying tickets, shirts, etc....


    And right now, states all over have passed NIL for High School Students. That means that high school teams can shop for high school players. etc. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg81 View Post
    Put a cap on it. The NFL has a Salary Cap.
    The NFL does not have a NIL cap. Players are free to make as many deals as they want. The salary cap is only what the team pays them. The NCAA does not pay players yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C&DDAWG32 View Post
    The NCAA has got to figure something out. What would your suggestions be to curbing all this or do you think it's too far gone? I do think players deserve a right to make money, but there has to be some boundaries set.
    The NCAA is done, they are so tied up in litigation that cant do anything, nor will they. The genie is out of the bottle and there is no putting it back in now. The change will have to come from within. When the Major boosters, Presidents and AD's of the blue bloods have had enough then change will occur. The thought of ever returning to the way things were will not happen, those days are gone forever. What is to come who knows, some kind of collective bargaining agreement like the NFL? A new division formed, or more that one new division which is what I and others have discussed coming. Things will shake out in 5 years or less give or take, the current state of things isn't sustainable for many of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    need a cap. Title IX I am hoping will help eventually. Everyone can get 50k. The superstar players will still get their money under the table by donating to your uncles roommates church like the good ole days.
    No court is going to rule that a player can not use their NIL to make money and draw a line at how much. They have ruled in the opposite. And more court cases are going to decide if the players can unionize and if they are employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    The NCAA is done, they are so tied up in litigation that cant do anything, nor will they. The genie is out of the bottle and there is no putting it back in now. The change will have to come from within. When the Major boosters, Presidents and AD's of the blue bloods have had enough then change will occur. The thought of ever returning to the way things were will not happen, those days are gone forever. What is to come who knows, some kind of collective bargaining agreement like the NFL? A new division formed, or more that one new division which is what I and others have discussed coming. Things will shake out in 5 years or less give or take, the current state of things isn't sustainable for many of us.
    My guess is there's a Super League coming. The blue bloods will break away from everyone else to keep the money amongst themselves. Then they'll set caps and such to make sure they'll always make money. Everyone else gets left behind fighting over scraps, with pennies to use, and no chance of upward mobility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    No court is going to rule that a player can not use their NIL to make money and draw a line at how much. They have ruled in the opposite. And more court cases are going to decide if the players can unionize and if they are employees.

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    Because the NCAA is so inept and ineffective, the best thing for college football would be for players to unionize - and force collective bargaining just like the other pro sports have. At least then there would be agreement about the structure.
    The wild west we have now is not sustainable.
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    We can't even have a college football video game because of greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    My guess is there's a Super League coming. The blue bloods will break away from everyone else to keep the money amongst themselves. Then they'll set caps and such to make sure they'll always make money. Everyone else gets left behind fighting over scraps, with pennies to use, and no chance of upward mobility.
    They can not set caps on NIL. It's illegal. Not even the NFL can do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Because the NCAA is so inept and ineffective, the best thing for college football would be for players to unionize - and force collective bargaining just like the other pro sports have. At least then there would be agreement about the structure.
    The wild west we have now is not sustainable.
    I don't think it will. No union is going to have the power to tell "Billy" he can only earn so much. Once again... it's illegal.

    However, it does make them employees. and if that happens, all hell will break loose.

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    Do a college draft and put salary caps on coaches.

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    The ironic part of all this is that the impetus for all this was the fact that schools and coaches were making all this money from the TV revenue without any of it going to the players. Well, you know what, schools and coaches still have ALL that money with none going to the players and instead fans and boosters are being shaken down to throw in additional money from what they normally spend to satisfy the greed of the players who are now legally going to the highest bidder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We have gone from raising hell about Orgeron illegally paying recruits to visit Grenada Without The Lake to it becoming the legal expectation by recruits now.

    Money corrupts everything if there is enough of it.
    Not just college football. Pro golf is headed down a Similar path. The Saudis will own golf soon and probably other sports too in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    I don't think it will. No union is going to have the power to tell "Billy" he can only earn so much. Once again... it's illegal.

    However, it does make them employees. and if that happens, all hell will break loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgface View Post
    Not just college football. Pro golf is headed down a Similar path. The Saudis will own golf soon and probably other sports too in the future.
    Oh I agree. Golf. Congress. City projects...whatever. China is pumping money into our colleges. So are places like Qatar. America has become Rome- corruption rampant and rotting from within
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We have gone from raising hell about Orgeron illegally paying recruits to visit Grenada Without The Lake to it becoming the legal expectation by recruits now.

    Money corrupts everything if there is enough of it.
    It's still illegal for anyone to pay a recruit to visit. For that matter, it's still illegal to pay a recruit, period. I know, NCAA, blah blah blah. Just pointing out that it's still illegal.

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    All that has to be done is actually make it about NAME IMAGE AND LIKENESS. Player comes they do well they sell more jerseys, get more endorsements. It was NEVER meant to be pay to play. This is the Wild West and it is ruining a once great sport.
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