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    The Big12 tv contract is $220 million until 2025 and $330 million after that until 2031. That is without Texas and Oklahoma. Oklahoma St, TxTech and TCU have it made now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Albert Means yes
    We got on probation under Mullen over a 7on7 coach

    That shit is still in full force and worse than ever
    Yep. Byron DeVinner

    I guess we didn't pay him his fee.
    Last edited by Maroonthirteen; 12-04-2023 at 09:16 PM.

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    I can't disagree with the doom and gloom on here.

    Ultimately, every offseason is free agency with no salary cap and most of our SEC peers will always spend literally 2-5x the "salary" we can. If we stay in the SEC we will be the punching bag for the big schools. We will be their farm system. Already lost Rara to ride the bench at UGA, would have lost Will Rogers if he was as into money as most kids are.

    What do you want to be? the Jets of the NFL, or the UGA of he college world? See UGA would get boatraced by the Jets if they actually played but we all respect UGA more. The jets also spend way more $$$ each year.

    Well, I'd rather play real amateur football and compete vs the "have nots" than be the jets of the SEC/Big 10 competition. Id rather be feared by who we play than laughed at.

    We've been conditioned to thing more $$$ is good and that being in the same boat as the rich kids will raise our stock. But I see where this boat is going and it isn't what I like. It's NFL lite and we cant win that game

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    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    That's rough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    They are about 20 percent on accuracy
    Romans 5:8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Wouldn?t trust that

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    I can't disagree with the doom and gloom on here.

    Ultimately, every offseason is free agency with no salary cap and most of our SEC peers will always spend literally 2-5x the "salary" we can. If we stay in the SEC we will be the punching bag for the big schools. We will be their farm system. Already lost Rara to ride the bench at UGA, would have lost Will Rogers if he was as into money as most kids are.

    What do you want to be? the Jets of the NFL, or the UGA of he college world? See UGA would get boatraced by the Jets if they actually played but we all respect UGA more. The jets also spend way more $$$ each year.

    Well, I'd rather play real amateur football and compete vs the "have nots" than be the jets of the SEC/Big 10 competition. Id rather be feared by who we play than laughed at.

    We've been conditioned to thing more $$$ is good and that being in the same boat as the rich kids will raise our stock. But I see where this boat is going and it isn't what I like. It's NFL lite and we cant win that game
    Playing w the have nots isn't what you think. Wo sec money, you really want to compete in that?? Trash. No thanks. I'll be a bottom feeder and hope for a good year but I'll pass on cusa. And baseball would be gone too. As for the 2/3 X the rest of the league. It's always been that way. Just that now there is a transfer portal that means our guys that we "finds" will be gone too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    This isn?t D1 anymore. All that died. This is chaos and it?s against everything this game is supposed to teach. And it?s not coming back. It wont be long till it hits HS if people dont stand up.
    Oh I agree. But it's not changing is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesotoDog1967 View Post
    How long before HS coaches expect a finders fee for steering players to certain programs?
    Where have you been? There's plenty of that in the right place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    I'm sure our revenue will plummet. But we will get in the B12 or acc (or what's left of those).

    Oregon St and WashSt will tell us what the future holds for former P5s with smaller conference payout.
    We will either be in the EC as a founding member or we will be gone. But good news is, someone has to be at the bottom. I don't think we are losing our seat at the table

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I?ll need it from a better source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    No idea how reliable the source is but it makes sense. Go to Oregon and play for a school that can compete for a conference and perhaps NC. Come to State and hope for a 6-6 record. Hope we get him tho but I'm the ultimate pessimist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgface View Post
    No idea how reliable the source is but it makes sense. Go to Oregon and play for a school that can compete for a conference and perhaps NC. Come to State and hope for a 6-6 record. Hope we get him tho but I'm the ultimate pessimist.
    I'm sure the players don't care but there are going to be some long road trips for Oregon in the Big 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    I'm sure the players don't care but there are going to be some long road trips for Oregon in the Big 10.
    They add Ohio state, at Michigan, and at Wisconsin (I think they will be much improved) next season. I think they will have a rough go of it next season, but we will also

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    I'm sure the players don't care but there are going to be some long road trips for Oregon in the Big 10.
    They fly in a chartered jet. It's not a big deal.

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    gabriel is a duck

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    If Gabriel does indeed go to Oregon, it stinks, but there are other very capable quarterbacks available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    If Gabriel does indeed go to Oregon, it stinks, but there are other very capable quarterbacks available.
    The ones on Gabriel's level won't even consider us, and the QBs who aren't elite and are just "capable" will still demand a free market price and we have no ins with them. The Lebby connection was supposed to be tue magic sauce allowing us to get real value as far as performance to NIL goes.

    This is a big loss and further reinforces the fact we can't truly compete with the big boys in a Portal+NIL world: If we can't land Gabriel with the Lebby connection, what elite player will we ever land? And if all the big players not only recruit HS better than us, but can fill roster holes with elite Portal talent while we hope for "capable", how will a '14 season ever happen again?

    That's a good thought experiment, let's pretend that the portal and NIL existed at the end of the '13 season and players were going for the same prices they are now. Dak would have been offered close to a million. Bear and Fred Ross would have been more sought after than RaRa. Some others would be courted, like Benardric McKinney or Dillon Day. Could we have afforded to keep the '14 team together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    The ones on Gabriel's level won't even consider us, and the QBs who aren't elite and are just "capable" will still demand a free market price and we have no ins with them. The Lebby connection was supposed to be tue magic sauce allowing us to get real value as far as performance to NIL goes.

    This is a big loss and further reinforces the fact we can't truly compete with the big boys in a Portal+NIL world: If we can't land Gabriel with the Lebby connection, what elite player will we ever land? And if all the big players not only recruit HS better than us, but can fill roster holes with elite Portal talent while we hope for "capable", how will a '14 season ever happen again?

    That's a good thought experiment, let's pretend that the portal and NIL existed at the end of the '13 season and players were going for the same prices they are now. Dak would have been offered close to a million. Bear and Fred Ross would have been more sought after than RaRa. Some others would be courted, like Benardric McKinney or Dillon Day. Could we have afforded to keep the '14 team together?
    People wanted Williams over Dak at the end of '13 and the start of '14. Dak and the others didn't get noticed till the LSU game. And until 2015 Dak was still considered a running QB/ I wish Bear could of gotten some "helpin" at the beginning of 14 to keep him here.

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