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12-04-2023, 03:34 PM
#141
Can someone explain the Zavion Google deal? Do we essentially pay him a lump sum and hope he doesn't leave? Is there a contract that makes him owe it back if he leaves? Otherwise it seems incredibly stupid to do that a few weeks ago.
Edit to add: or is this just Google's money and we don't give a shit?
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12-04-2023, 03:35 PM
#142

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
That's fine. Can't over spend on him. Just have to find a comparable replacement. I like the Vandy WR
So where there was no hole, we have a hole. Honest question - where are the spots that are filled with a capable sec player going into 2024?
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12-04-2023, 03:36 PM
#143

Originally Posted by
chef dixon
Can someone explain the Zavion Google deal? Do we essentially pay him a lump sum and hope he doesn't leave? Is there a contract that makes him owe it back if he leaves? Otherwise it seems incredibly stupid to do that a few weeks ago.
Edit to add: or is this just Google's money and we don't give a shit?
I have no idea how this works, but I would hope these are monthly payments or at certain times (ST, SUmmer, and fall).
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12-04-2023, 03:39 PM
#144
I'm pretty sure the deal is with Google and has nothing to do with us- much like Caleb Williams and Dr Pepper
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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12-04-2023, 03:47 PM
#145

Originally Posted by
Coach34
I'm pretty sure the deal is with Google and has nothing to do with us- much like Caleb Williams and Dr Pepper
Interesting to me that Google could make money off Zavion Thomas lol
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12-04-2023, 03:52 PM
#146

Originally Posted by
chef dixon
Can someone explain the Zavion Google deal? Do we essentially pay him a lump sum and hope he doesn't leave? Is there a contract that makes him owe it back if he leaves? Otherwise it seems incredibly stupid to do that a few weeks ago.
Edit to add: or is this just Google's money and we don't give a shit?
I know a player at Texas A&M. He gets 250k per year. He knows that if he leaves, he likely won't get that much at another school.
The google deal for Zavion can be coordinated thru BI but doesn't bind him in any way.
This whole thing is fcked.
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12-04-2023, 04:01 PM
#147
Nobody ranks Rattler, Maye, or Sanders anywhere near the top 5 college QBs. Come on people.
We have a clear top 3 in Daniel's, Penix, and Nix, with Milroe and Gabriel rounding it out, maybe William's or Thomas or one of the Big 10 elites have an argument. And all of those teams are much better than 6-6.
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12-04-2023, 05:07 PM
#148

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
That's fine. Can't over spend on him. Just have to find a comparable replacement. I like the Vandy WR
Apparently UGA has already tampered their ass off to get him.
I liked the little fast RB from Vandy too, and he is set to go to South Carolina.
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12-04-2023, 05:10 PM
#149

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Nobody ranks Rattler, Maye, or Sanders anywhere near the top 5 college QBs. Come on people.
We have a clear top 3 in Daniel's, Penix, and Nix, with Milroe and Gabriel rounding it out, maybe William's or Thomas or one of the Big 10 elites have an argument. And all of those teams are much better than 6-6.
You think people rank Gabriel over Maye and Sanders? I mean come on. Rattler was one of the top portal QBs two seasons ago. He went 13-12.
What does Daniels, Nix and Milroe all have in common? An amazing cast of characters around them.
Look - I want Gabriel, we should all want him, but the cupboard is pretty damn bare and we need bodies everywhere.
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12-04-2023, 05:12 PM
#150

Originally Posted by
msstate7
I have no idea how this works, but I would hope these are monthly payments or at certain times (ST, SUmmer, and fall).
It was my understanding that it is monthly and they can stop and start at a moment's notice.
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12-04-2023, 05:19 PM
#151

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Nobody ranks Rattler, Maye, or Sanders anywhere near the top 5 college QBs. Come on people.
We have a clear top 3 in Daniel's, Penix, and Nix, with Milroe and Gabriel rounding it out, maybe William's or Thomas or one of the Big 10 elites have an argument. And all of those teams are much better than 6-6.
What? Maye has been talked about being a top 5 pick for over a year! If you want to be optimistic about msu football, great. Hope youre correct. But on this particular subject you have fallen out of the boat and missed the water.
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12-04-2023, 05:20 PM
#152

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
You think people rank Gabriel over Maye and Sanders? I mean come on. Rattler was one of the top portal QBs two seasons ago. He went 13-12.
What does Daniels, Nix and Milroe all have in common? An amazing cast of characters around them.
Look - I want Gabriel, we should all want him, but the cupboard is pretty damn bare and we need bodies everywhere.
no. no they don't.
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12-04-2023, 05:21 PM
#153

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
It was my understanding that it is monthly and they can stop and start at a moment's notice.
If they leave us, the checks stop from us. Charlie is a smart, smart guy. He has it set it the very best way possible to protect msu, while providing the player what he's rightfully "earned".........
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12-04-2023, 05:47 PM
#154

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
What? Maye has been talked about being a top 5 pick for over a year! If you want to be optimistic about msu football, great. Hope youre correct. But on this particular subject you have fallen out of the boat and missed the water.
I said top 5 COLLEGE quarterback, not top 5 NFL draft pick. There is sometimes a huge difference in the 2.
Gabriel is 5th in the FBS in QBR, and Maye is 37th. NFL GMs may see more in Maye, but Gabriel was the better college QB this year.
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12-04-2023, 05:49 PM
#155

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
I said top 5 COLLEGE quarterback, not top 5 NFL draft pick. There is sometimes a huge difference in the 2.
Gabriel is 5th in the FBS in QBR, and Maye is 37th. NFL GMs may see more in Maye, but Gabriel was the better college QB this year.
And Maye is playing w UNC players around him. Gabriel is playing w OU players around him Ever once cross your mind that it matters?????????????????????
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12-04-2023, 05:53 PM
#156
You know, I really didn't expect "If we get an elite quarterback we have a good shot to go 8-4 like we have done a bunch of times in the last 15 years," and "The #5 nationally in QB rating probably had a better season than the #37 QB" to be such controversial statements.
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12-04-2023, 06:21 PM
#157

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
And Maye is playing w UNC players around him. Gabriel is playing w OU players around him Ever once cross your mind that it matters?????????????????????
Not that one, critical thinking is not a strength.
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12-04-2023, 06:37 PM
#158

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
Not that one, critical thinking is not a strength.
You and your buddy are being assholes. Stop, we’re all on the same side.
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12-04-2023, 06:54 PM
#159

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
You know, I really didn't expect "If we get an elite quarterback we have a good shot to go 8-4 like we have done a bunch of times in the last 15 years," and "The #5 nationally in QB rating probably had a better season than the #37 QB" to be such controversial statements.
But that's NOT what you said. You said if we go anything less than 9-4 it would be a huge disappointment. That's nowhere near a good shot to go 8-4. My point remains, at present, our roster is not good at all. We have lots of holes. Your now expectation w just Gabriel isn't realistic possible. But not realistic.
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12-04-2023, 06:57 PM
#160

Originally Posted by
Dogbone
You and your buddy are being assholes. Stop, we’re all on the same side.
Thank you for your support.
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