Gabriel

[Duckdog]

7 with the shitty takes per usual

[DownwardDawg]

There's nothing any fanbase agrees on completely. Lebby has money to spend and it's his butt on the line, so I trust his interest and ours align. I prefer an eye to 2025, but I will support Lebby in whichever plan he rolls with

I don't disagree with your criteria. But I think we need this one.

[DownwardDawg]

Oregon ain't backing down. They want Gabriel. He's listening.

Better have a damn good plan B.

As State fans we know how this will play out.

[msstate7]

Oregon ain't backing down. They want Gabriel. He's listening.

Better have a damn good plan B.

They have more money and a better team. They're about to put a similar qb in the nfl, so I don't see what we have to compete. We could overpay, which might work since this is his last pay day barring an nfl contract

[preachermatt83]

Gabriel is the perfect situation. Parsons is our future. Gives him a year to learn the system. Parsons is going to be a star. We are looking at finding a way this year to get to 6 wins. This does it.

[Quaoarsking]

Personally, I think any time you have the opportunity to land a top 5 national QB, you take it, whether it lines up with your ideal years or not.

[Quaoarsking]

Gabriel is the perfect situation. Parsons is our future. Gives him a year to learn the system. Parsons is going to be a star. We are looking at finding a way this year to get to 6 wins. This does it.

Forget 6 wins. Anything less than 9-4 and ranked in the final poll is a huge disappointment if we can get Gabriel. And we know he and Lebby are going to aim even higher than that.

[TrapGame]

Forget 6 wins. Anything less than 9-4 and ranked in the final poll is a huge disappointment if we can get Gabriel. And we know he and Lebby are going to aim even higher than that.

Without someone like Gabriel our ceiling is definitely 6 wins, if we are lucky. With Gabriel we have a decent chance at 8 wins. He and Lebby could start this rebuild off with a huge bang. All the while Parson is soaking it up.

[DesotoDog1967]

if the Ducks want him, make them pay big for him

[Homedawg]

Forget 6 wins. Anything less than 9-4 and ranked in the final poll is a huge disappointment if we can get Gabriel. And we know he and Lebby are going to aim even higher than that.

wowowwo. you must be counting on a hell of a portal haul.....

[preachermatt83]

Forget 6 wins. Anything less than 9-4 and ranked in the final poll is a huge disappointment if we can get Gabriel. And we know he and Lebby are going to aim even higher than that.

Man I hope so but we lost so much defensively I don’t see us winning more than 6 or 7 no matter who is playing QB

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Look 7 I understand if you believe a "cheap QB and expensive OL/DL" will win more games than the opposite.

But this 2 year thing makes no sense:

1) you can't pay someone for 1 year, then not pay them for year 2 because "you've already transferred, what are you going to do about it?". Word would get out that we lie to and screw over players and we wouldn't get more transfers.

2) say we get a QB with 2 years. Woohoo! We've got a QB for '25 now! How is that any better than getting a 1 year QB, then getting another in '25? Moreover, what do you think on roster QBs will do if they're told "you've got to sit another 2 seasons" instead of 1 season? Parsons would transfer.

3) and parsons brings me to this point: you're talking a lot about managing our NIL resources wisely. I agree. You know what the best way to have a good roster is? To recruit good HS players and coach them up here. We get at least 1 good blow up year for cheap, then have a big NIL edge in negotiations to keep them from transferring. If you let young studs leave because we portables in a multi year starter ahead of them then we have no cheap on roster replacement and we're stuck paying market rate for a player again. Let Parsons have a real mentor at QB and a real coaching staff for a season and he may be ready to take over in '25.

4) players want results now. We need to win as much as possible and look cool doing it to be attractive to the talent we need for '25 to be good. Again if you think a cheap QB+expensive lines is the best way to win in '24 that's a reasonable view, but regarding "2 years left" transfers we can't take guys this year if they cost us games in '24. This is the year to market ourselves like OM does with an exciting on field product

[msstate7]

Assuming we win all 4 OOC, which may not be a given. You have to win 4 of the sec games...
At OM
At Georgia
At Tenn
At Texas
Ark
Florida
Mizzou
aTm

[StarkVegasSteve]

Assuming we win all 4 OOC, which may not be a given. You have to win 4 of the sec games...
At OM
At Georgia
At Tenn
At Texas
Ark
Florida
Mizzou
aTm

I think you can get Florida and Arky and I am 50/50 on A&M. I give us a better chance to get either at OM or at Tennessee than the other two road games.

[Matt3467]

I understand we need a lot more than a QB to win like we want to next year but I believe it's possible a QB like Gabriel is the difference between going to bowl and not going to bowl. If we value the bowl game and at least a .500 record I'd say go out and get him and hopefully it springboards us into a better position the following year.

[msstate7]

I think you can get Florida and Arky and I am 50/50 on A&M. I give us a better chance to get either at OM or at Tennessee than the other two road games.

Florida is interesting to me. Will they give Billy a big pot to try and try to turn it around or will they pretty much set him up to be fired?

[TrapGame]

I think you can get Florida and Arky and I am 50/50 on A&M. I give us a better chance to get either at OM or at Tennessee than the other two road games.

Tennessee could be interesting. That could be an offensive shoot out between two old friends. Next year is make or break for Billy. If we luck up and beat him it's over for him.

[HancockCountyDog]

wowowwo. you must be counting on a hell of a portal haul.....

Didn't Gabriel go 6-6 in his first year at OU in a much softer conference?

Look, i really want the kid, but those expectations aren't fair to Gabriel or Lebby.

[HancockCountyDog]

I think you can get Florida and Arky and I am 50/50 on A&M. I give us a better chance to get either at OM or at Tennessee than the other two road games.

I expect A&M and Tennessee to be pretty good next year unless they get hammered in the portal. I won't know about the bears until i see who they lose to the portal. They are making a big push to bring back a lot of guys for their covid year. They already got Pegues to stay for another year. We need their impact guys to leave. Wouldn't hurt my feelings to see Dart or Judkins hit the portal.

[msstate7]

I expect A&M and Tennessee to be pretty good next year unless they get hammered in the portal. I won't know about the bears until i see who they lose to the portal. They are making a big push to bring back a lot of guys for their covid year. They already got Pegues to stay for another year. We need their impact guys to leave. Wouldn't hurt my feelings to see Dart or Judkins hit the portal.

Is dart a graduate?