Gabriel

[msstate7]

I guess you missed the memo, but rosters are year to year now. We aren't UGA.

Exactly, so we have to spend our money wisely.

[DesotoDog1967]

If you don't make a solid effort at a showing next season you risk further apathy in the program.

[msstate7]

If you don't make a solid effort at a showing next season you risk further apathy in the program.

You can do both, but you have to be wise when you have the funds of a bottom tier sec team.

[msstate7]

I think this is moot anyway. Gabriel is transferring bc he isn't an nfl qb. He will do exactly what he should do with this 1 year - try to win big or get every penny he can before hanging up his jersey. I'm not sure we fit either one

[HoopsDawg]

I'll stick with my criteria on all transfers, not just qb...

2 years or more of eligibility
Previous transfers preferred.

I'm trying to field a good team in 2025 bc I think next season is useless

Atta boy, dig those heels in on an awful take. Let's roll with Mike Wright next year and see what happens.

[msstate7]

Atta boy, dig those heels in on an awful take. Let's roll with Mike Wright next year and see what happens.

lol, that's exactly what I said - use Mike wright!

[Quaoarsking]

Exactly, so we have to spend our money wisely.

Why is it "unwise" to pay Gabriel for 2024 and someone else in 2025, compared to paying someone else for both years? It's the same net cost either way

[HoopsDawg]

lol, that's exactly what I said - use Mike wright!

Right, I forgot, you want the blue chip QB with multiple years of eligibility who has already transferred and is dying to come to Miss State. My bad.

[msstate7]

Why is it "unwise" to pay Gabriel for 2024 and someone else in 2025, compared to paying someone else for both years? It's the same net cost either way

One he transfers to you, he's done unless he's a graduate

[msstate7]

Right, I forgot, you want the blue chip QB with multiple years of eligibility who has already transferred and is dying to come to Miss State. My bad.

Preferably. Getting a freshman transfer is just as good though since you only get 1 free transfer

[confucius say]

Bc we're gonna suck with or without Gabriel next season imo

I don't follow. You're going to spend the same money over the next 2 years on a QB whether you get DG this year and X next year or if you get X for both years.
Are you saying we can get somebody better than DG and maybe not suck?

[Turfdawg67]

The criteria should be simple...
2 years of eligibility at least
Previous transfer

A previous transfer would have to sit a year unless he's a grad transfer, and if that's the case, he'd only have one year left. Right?

[confucius say]

I guess we just disagree on what we have returning. Gabriel can't save our roster

So you would rather us get a worse qb than DG because we are not going to be good next year anyway? What?

[msstate7]

I don't follow. You're going to spend the same money over the next 2 years on a QB whether you get DG this year and X next year or if you get X for both years.
Are you saying we can get somebody better than DG and maybe not suck?

If we pay John Jim (freshman) from Joe blow state to transfer here, he can't transfer without sitting out again till he graduates. That one big sum gets you 2 years

[Turfdawg67]

I think this is moot anyway. Gabriel is transferring bc he isn't an nfl qb. He will do exactly what he should do with this 1 year - try to win big or get every penny he can before hanging up his jersey. I'm not sure we fit either one

So, if we get a "NFL QB" with 2 years of eligibility remaining, what's to say he won't declare for the draft after year one?

[Quaoarsking]

If we pay John Jim (freshman) from Joe blow state to transfer here, he can't transfer without sitting out again till he graduates. That one big sum gets you 2 years

No, you'll have to give him the big sum again in year. These NIL deals aren't one time signing bonuses.

[confucius say]

I'll stick with my criteria on all transfers, not just qb...

2 years or more of eligibility
Previous transfers preferred.

I'm trying to field a good team in 2025 bc I think next season is useless

If they have transferred previously and are going to transfer to us, that means they have to sit a year or are a grad transfer. So you want a grad transfer who has 2 years of eligibility left? That's the criteria?

[msstate7]

A previous transfer would have to sit a year unless he's a grad transfer, and if that's the case, he'd only have one year left. Right?

Yes, I said that multiple times for some reason. I was thinking get that first transfer to lock them in, but I said previous transfer which is wrong

[Turfdawg67]

If we pay John Jim (freshman) from Joe blow state to transfer here, he can't transfer without sitting out again till he graduates. That one big sum gets you 2 years

So you want an unproven QB transfer?

[msstate7]

No, you'll have to give him the big sum again in year. These NIL deals aren't one time signing bonuses.

Ok, so what's his recourse? Sit out. The deal he gets this year is for those years until he's eligible to transfer