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[DEDawg]

Your reasoning in point #1 is ass backwards.

The athletes are STUDENTS, you had to qualify to be a student first, and sports is a past time or extracurricular activity that you have to qualify for in order to participate - a C average or that was the intent years ago.

Student athletes are NOT employees of the university like the coaches are. They are given a scholarship, if they are good enough, to help cover the cost of their education. Even the IRS recognizes the difference between a scholarship and being an employee - employees have to pay taxes on the money they receive from their employees as that is earned income where student athlete with a scholarship do not as long as the money is used to pay for reasonable education related expenses. This is how kids, in days past, who may not normally be able to afford college were able to attend and better their life thru a college education.

The idea of student athletes - amateurs, receiving money for pay or name image and likeness (NIL), has only been an issue in recent years. The question is WHY - WHY NOW? The answer is PURE GREED! Years ago when stadiums were relatively small compared to today (22,000 at MSU vs 65,000 today) plus televised games were a rarity unless you were highly ranked or some high profile named rivalry game. The point is, years ago not much money, relatively speaking, was made by the university. Not much money, not much interest in NIL concepts.

But now, since most games are televised and stadiums have increased dramatically, so has revenue for the university. Now everybody suddenly wants a piece of the big ole pie, including the poor ole student athlete who gets a free education, room, meals and tutoring, plus other perks I am sure I am unaware of!

Turning amateur college athletics into a pro league is turning A LOT of fans off. If you wonder why our NIL fund is not as big as say other schools who have a handful of crazy rich donors, look no further as most everyday fans do not want to pay, some can't pay, a STUDENT to play sports.

I get being competitive and so does the average fan, but turning STUDENT athletes into pros is not the way to do it! It is ruining college sports and if this keeps going it will ruin high school sports as well!

This is PURE GREED and is very quickly ruining college athletics!

Have the universities create a pro farm league, for those pro minded and physically gifted, separate from the university itself where now TRUE STUDENT ATHLETES can compete at the collegiate (amateur) level.

The irony of your post is you claim student athletes are greedy?. Then proceed to list all the ways they are bringing in money for the universities? yet somehow go back to them being greedy because they would like to be benefactors of a portion of that? its like you wrote this with the intention to contradict yourself.

Make it make sense.

[Extendedcab]

They are greedy, NIL only became an issue when universities started making significant money. Before then it was no issue. Reread the post.

Also keep in mind, STUDENTS, are NOT EMPLOYEES! Read in my post where scholarships are not treated the same as a salary. If you can not see the difference, I can not help you.

[Offshore Dawg]

here's the big difference. schools make money and boosters pay NIL. this doesn't come from the schools. two different subjects.

[GeoDawg]

I've got so many ramblings and thoughts when it comes to this so-called NIL (which is a ludicrous term) or "buying players" (another misnomer; should be called renting players) that I don't think I can put it together in any kind of coherent or complete rant.

Why would any rational person give to this money pit? Where is the ROI? I keep hearing that some magical number will produce winning a national championship on the field, but no one can tell me what is the exact number? And even if MSU does win a national championship, do I get anything for it? NO (Oh wait, I guess I get to stick my chest out and tell all my friends, "See what I did." Please!). I'm told that I should support these so-called student athletes with my hard-earned dollars because they only want their "piece of the pie". Well, guess what? If they want my hard-earned dollars then I want my piece of the pie too.

Here's a deal that I would consider. If I give to some sort of initiative to rent athletes, then the initiative gets a portion of their future earnings (2%, 5%, 10%, etc.) for a period of time after graduation (5 to 10 years or more, has to be long enough to get past rookie contracts). Think of it as a mutual fund. Then the initiative would either cut me a dividend check every so often or I could choose to re-invest it.

No, that's still a bad investment. Not enough Dak Prescott's in the world. Well screw it then. Let the colleges put them on the payroll as employees (Wait, does that make them State employees? #$%^, I get screwed again). After all they are the ones supposedly getting the big pay day!!!

I told you my rant would be incoherent. Have a nice day!

[SilentSteel16]

I've got so many ramblings and thoughts when it comes to this so-called NIL (which is a ludicrous term) or "buying players" (another misnomer; should be called renting players) that I don't think I can put it together in any kind of coherent or complete rant.

Why would any rational person give to this money pit? Where is the ROI? I keep hearing that some magical number will produce winning a national championship on the field, but no one can tell me what is the exact number? And even if MSU does win a national championship, do I get anything for it? NO (Oh wait, I guess I get to stick my chest out and tell all my friends, "See what I did." Please!). I'm told that I should support these so-called student athletes with my hard-earned dollars because they only want their "piece of the pie". Well, guess what? If they want my hard-earned dollars then I want my piece of the pie too.

Here's a deal that I would consider. If I give to some sort of initiative to rent athletes, then the initiative gets a portion of their future earnings (2%, 5%, 10%, etc.) for a period of time after graduation (5 to 10 years or more, has to be long enough to get past rookie contracts). Think of it as a mutual fund. Then the initiative would either cut me a dividend check every so often or I could choose to re-invest it.

No, that's still a bad investment. Not enough Dak Prescott's in the world. Well screw it then. Let the colleges put them on the payroll as employees (Wait, does that make them State employees? #$%^, I get screwed again). After all they are the ones supposedly getting the big pay day!!!

I told you my rant would be incoherent. Have a nice day!

Amen to this !! I think even the Dems would consider those poll numbers as not advantageous?

[Pancho]

lookout, don't agitate the safe spacers********

[RezDog7]

Most rational post I've seen on NIL.

[DownwardDawg]

I've got so many ramblings and thoughts when it comes to this so-called NIL (which is a ludicrous term) or "buying players" (another misnomer; should be called renting players) that I don't think I can put it together in any kind of coherent or complete rant.

Why would any rational person give to this money pit? Where is the ROI? I keep hearing that some magical number will produce winning a national championship on the field, but no one can tell me what is the exact number? And even if MSU does win a national championship, do I get anything for it? NO (Oh wait, I guess I get to stick my chest out and tell all my friends, "See what I did." Please!). I'm told that I should support these so-called student athletes with my hard-earned dollars because they only want their "piece of the pie". Well, guess what? If they want my hard-earned dollars then I want my piece of the pie too.

Here's a deal that I would consider. If I give to some sort of initiative to rent athletes, then the initiative gets a portion of their future earnings (2%, 5%, 10%, etc.) for a period of time after graduation (5 to 10 years or more, has to be long enough to get past rookie contracts). Think of it as a mutual fund. Then the initiative would either cut me a dividend check every so often or I could choose to re-invest it.

No, that's still a bad investment. Not enough Dak Prescott's in the world. Well screw it then. Let the colleges put them on the payroll as employees (Wait, does that make them State employees? #$%^, I get screwed again). After all they are the ones supposedly getting the big pay day!!!

I told you my rant would be incoherent. Have a nice day!

Bravo!!

[archdog]

The student athletes are not greedy. They have collectively made 100s of Billions of dollars for Universities, the NCAA, and networks. It is complete bullshit that these players basically train 364 days a year, all day every day and don?t have enough money to take in a movie or date that hot Co-Ed that wants the D. Seriously. The poor kids that make it to campus, walk around poorer than any of us day to day, yet they have a skill set that puts all those billions into motion.

Dan Mullen talked about this literally every single year he was here. It is total BS. I hope they get every single dollar they can get. And yes, the stars will make more. Bigger schools with wealthy alumni will do even better. And at the end of the day, where Bama and Georgia would get 50% of the talent in the SEC, now they get 70%. It still doesn?t change the fact that we will lose to them 9 out of 10 times.

The bigger issue is the free transfer rules. But, if a normal student can do it, so should they be able to.

[archdog]

Schools should be sharing the piece of the pie and the NCAA gave them the go ahead to do that. Up to 20 million a year for paying players.

The University needs to raise say 2 billion dollars endowment to cover that 20 million a year. There?s the number you wanted.

[Dawgology]

Schools should be sharing the piece of the pie and the NCAA gave them the go ahead to do that. Up to 20 million a year for paying players.

The University needs to raise say 2 billion dollars endowment to cover that 20 million a year. There?s the number you wanted.

Yep. You about the see the gap REEEeAAAALLYY widen. There will be those programs that can easily drop 20 mil. For players a year then the other 90% of schools can’t. I’m all for the kids making some money but you’re about to see this become a 15 team college football league. The rest will be exhibition/preseason type games