2024 FOOTBALL Staff Thread

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think Collin’s would be great! Psycho defense, cans of swag everywhere, just leave the 1A, 1B shit it the past. He and Shoop were the best defenses we had under Mullen.

Shoop was never here under Mullen. I think you are thinking of Grantham. Or maybe Manny 1

Also, Shoop being good is a fallacy. Any of us could have coordinated that 2018 D and it would have been elite. Sweat on one side, Simmons in the middle, and Gerri Green on the other. Corey Thomas would sub in there as well. Then you had Errol and Willie at LBs with the heat seeking missile Jonathan Abram in the backend along with Dantzler

[Op4isabitch]

You’re correct I was thinking of TG. Thank you.

[CoachT14]

1A and 1B here we come

He better send like 100 kids in the portal cans of swag juice to come here. lol

[dawgday166]

Shoop was never here under Mullen. I think you are thinking of Grantham. Or maybe Manny 1

Also, Shoop being good is a fallacy. Any of us could have coordinated that 2018 D and it would have been elite. Sweat on one side, Simmons in the middle, and Gerri Green on the other. Corey Thomas would sub in there as well. Then you had Errol and Willie at LBs with the heat seeking missile Jonathan Abram in the backend along with Dantzler

Sorta true and sorta false.

Coordinate 2018 D to a top 10 D ... Sure. To #1 ... Not too many DCs would've done that. Or shut Tua down in TTown when he had been lighting everyone else up.

[vindastra]

Shoop was never here under Mullen. I think you are thinking of Grantham. Or maybe Manny 1

Also, Shoop being good is a fallacy. Any of us could have coordinated that 2018 D and it would have been elite. Sweat on one side, Simmons in the middle, and Gerri Green on the other. Corey Thomas would sub in there as well. Then you had Errol and Willie at LBs with the heat seeking missile Jonathan Abram in the backend along with Dantzler

How we easily forget Peter Sirmon.

[Anonymous]

Shoop was never here under Mullen. I think you are thinking of Grantham. Or maybe Manny 1

Also, Shoop being good is a fallacy. Any of us could have coordinated that 2018 D and it would have been elite. Sweat on one side, Simmons in the middle, and Gerri Green on the other. Corey Thomas would sub in there as well. Then you had Errol and Willie at LBs with the heat seeking missile Jonathan Abram in the backend along with Dantzler

I get your point, but you're mistaken if you don't think he did a good job that year. There is having a good defense with that talent, then there is what he did. We gave up 13.2 ppg that year, a full 2.5 ppg better than UGA's defense this year.

[BrunswickDawg]

I get your point, but you're mistaken if you don't think he did a good job that year. There is having a good defense with that talent, then there is what he did. We gave up 13.2 ppg that year, a full 2.5 ppg better than UGA's defense this year.

Now you are just making me made at JoMo all over again for the way he wasted that defense with such a craptastic approach to offense.

[ScoobaDawg]

Jon Cooper will be the OL Coach.

[MetEdDawg]

Jon Cooper will be the OL Coach.

This seems underwhelming. I know he's got previous experience as a TE coacH at UCF and some other experience as well.

But I feel like we should have been able to do a little better here.

Not sure what to make of this.

[Coursesuper]

This seems underwhelming. I know he's got previous experience as a TE coacH at UCF and some other experience as well.

But I feel like we should have been able to do a little better here.

Not sure what to make of this.

It simply comes down to knowing the offense I believe. As long as the head guy is good on it it is what it is. Hevesy got demoted and was a go coach here. A dick but a good coach.

[ScoobaDawg]

This seems underwhelming. I know he's got previous experience as a TE coacH at UCF and some other experience as well.

But I feel like we should have been able to do a little better here.

Not sure what to make of this.

I'm going to trust....doing some more digging. Yes he meet Libby at UCF, when Heupel was the head coach. The OL coach there was Glen Elarbee, who has twice been a finalist for the Broyles award. Elarbee followed Heupel to UT. Cooper moved on to Arkansas and was fired after one of being the TE coach, which seems pretty weird....in the 1st year of Pittman and Broyles. Then the OL Coach For Western Carolina dies from Covid-19 and Cooper is hired on Sept 1st 2021 to the OL Coach....which he noted he always wanted to be instead of a TE Coach. They went 4-7 that year. He then moved on to OU as an offensive analyst, teaming up with Lebby again. From there he went to UNT and their spread offense for a year under Eric Morris.

Best pedigree? No. but it's someone Lebby knows and knows his system. I would feel better if Clements come in and was the OC and OL coach and Cooper was either TE or another split of the line type deal.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Say we're poor all you want. Arnett (a guy with significant fewer connections vs Lebby) was able to:

Hire the WR coach from Utah, hire the OL coach from Syracuse, hire another OL coach that had been an OL coagc at other SEC schools (yes Friend sucks but he had a resume), bring back Turner, bring in an experienced SEC RB coach as an analyst (Knox), and that's off the top of my head. And Arnett did it with a smaller assistant pool.

Arnett and Moorhead were able to bring in sitting P5 on field coaches. Don't tell me Lebby can't because of money

I understand there's a long way to go. Point is, these early returns are not good

[Coach34]

aGAIN- our football budget is in the bottom of the SEC. That didnt suddenly change just because we fired Arnett. What were you guys expecting?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Shoop was never here under Mullen. I think you are thinking of Grantham. Or maybe Manny 1

Also, Shoop being good is a fallacy. Any of us could have coordinated that 2018 D and it would have been elite. Sweat on one side, Simmons in the middle, and Gerri Green on the other. Corey Thomas would sub in there as well. Then you had Errol and Willie at LBs with the heat seeking missile Jonathan Abram in the backend along with Dantzler

This is very dumb.

We had 3 first round draft picks. So did Clemson, so did Alabama. But they had more defenders drafters late, and they had more drafted in the next few years. Ie, Clemson and Bama had the same elite talent but more talent and depth behind them. Moreover, Clemson and Bama had elite offenses helping them out too- ours did it with a 3 and out as their only rest. Lastly, Lupoi and pretty good DCs in their own right.

For Shoop to have. A better defense than Clemson or Bama was impressive as hell.

[civildawg]

aGAIN- our football budget is in the bottom of the SEC. That didnt suddenly change just because we fired Arnett. What were you guys expecting?

So we were able to bring in P5 assistants last year but this year we can't because our budget is at the bottom of the SEC?

[Saltydog]

And this is why the Bulldog Club is still relevant, IMO.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

aGAIN- our football budget is in the bottom of the SEC. That didnt suddenly change just because we fired Arnett. What were you guys expecting?

Moorhead hired the OL coach from Duke, brought the RB coach from PSU with him, and hired the Packers WR coach to the same position.

Arnett hired the sitting OL coach from Syracuse and WR coach from Utah.

But now the best we can afford is a guy with 1 year of G5 experience who was fired after 1 season from his only P5 job?

You're not making sense

[chef dixon]

I know we are 9 months from our next game and there's not shit else to talk about, but maybe, as a fan, who gives a shit who our O-line coach is?

[Mjoelner34]

This is very dumb.

We had 3 first round draft picks. So did Clemson, so did Alabama. But they had more defenders drafters late, and they had more drafted in the next few years. Ie, Clemson and Bama had the same elite talent but more talent and depth behind them. Moreover, Clemson and Bama had elite offenses helping them out too- ours did it with a 3 and out as their only rest. Lastly, Lupoi and pretty good DCs in their own right.

For Shoop to have. A better defense than Clemson or Bama was impressive as hell.

It's always been that way and probably always will be. Bulldog Backer (there is a name you haven't heard in a while) told me he was at one of Mullen's radio shows at Harvey's and during commercial break someone at the table asked Mullen about the difference between MSU and Bama. He said Mullen told them "We have Fletcher Cox and Josh Boyd and they're pretty good. Well, Alabama and LSU have 6 or 7 Fletcher Cox's and Josh Boyd's."

[BankerDog]

Moorhead hired the OL coach from Duke, brought the RB coach from PSU with him, and hired the Packers WR coach to the same position.

Arnett hired the sitting OL coach from Syracuse and WR coach from Utah.

But now the best we can afford is a guy with 1 year of G5 experience who was fired after 1 season from his only P5 job?

You're not making sense

Arnett didn?t hire the WR coach from Utah. That was a forced hire as was David Turner. That was Brad?s doing. Just like bringing Knox back.

Also Getsy was the ?assistant WR coach? btw and left after a year because he couldn?t stand that Joe didn?t have structure.