Lebby HC

[RockyDog]

I'm pretty sure it was always Lebby. Tried telling people last night. It just made to much sense & I knew if Selmon was making this hire that's who it was going to be. My source was essentially a Senior player on the team & information gathering. I put two & two together days ago. Didn't need an "insider" to see the writing on the wall.

Sumrall was never a serious contender no matter what Steve say's in his "now that it's over" lol. I did fear that Keenum may have stepped in late & overrode Lebby, but even that didn't make sense after I got to thinking about Kendall Briles having an offer in hand last year. If they were willing to hire Briles, Lebby dang sure wasn't going to be turned down.

Elko, Fritz, Chaldwell & Lashlee were also never serious contenders.

Of course Selmon went through the process, but that was always going to happen. You always need a backup plan.

Btw, I got smart with ReallyClark? last night and shouldn't have. I apologize. I really do appreciate guys like him & Homedog among many others on this board, because they are way more knowledgeable about all things MSU than I am & definitely have way more sources.

Now let's go out and get a Portal QB, two O Linemen, a Tight End, a Linebacker, Rush End, a cornerback & two safety's & do whatever it takes to keep Zavion, Creed & Seth Davis & the WR/TE that transferred on last year & play in a NY6 bowl next year 😁

Agreed. With a Sumrall, Odom, whoever I don?t think you have any shot at convincing Creed to stay. With Lebby you have a shot. All you gotta do is show him Drake Stoops and point at his tape. Creed is a much more talented player. Now let?s get a QB that can throw it more than 10 yards downfield!!!

[Tater]

No he isn't. We do not need a defensive coach. Sumrall is a dud

I didn't say the guy we should hire. I'm saying he fits the MO of what we think works at MSU. He was choice 1. (Well, realistic choice 1.) I think he would suck here too and wouldn't be excited for it.

Edit apologies for unclear wording. Lots of messages hitting the phone right now. People are going nuts over Stoops to A&M apparently not being a joke / raise grab.

[Pancho]

Does Tater not know that Sumrall wanted to stay and coach Troy in the bowl game? oh, the misinformed

[Pancho]

lookout Tater, they be comparing you to 34 soon.

[Coursesuper]

I would say your source is really bad on this one, but you don't have one, you're just butthurt... Sumrall was never going to be the coach here.

That one lives in a permanent state of butthurt. I’m beginning to this he is Rosey.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Where has it been confirmed

[SPMT]

Why? because I like the hire and we didnt hire a sitting HC as I said we would have trouble doing? GFY

Most programs do have a problem hiring sitting P5 coaches. Outside of two handfuls that shit isn?t happening. At least not with one you want.

90% of teams hire lower level HC or coordinator. Bama Florida Texas OSU Michigan Oklahoma and a few others like USC LSU and A&M are capable.

[Coach34]

Most programs do have a problem hiring sitting P5 coaches. Outside of two handfuls that shit isn?t happening. At least not with one you want.

90% of teams hire lower level HC or coordinator. Bama Florida Texas OSU Michigan Oklahoma and a few others like USC LSU and A&M are capable.

absolutely. That's why my problem is with many of our posters during the search not being based in reality

[Bdawg]

The constant trolling on here is getting old. Find myself reading here less and less because of it

It?s like we are ?playing cards with my 17ing brothers kids or something? on here. Tombstone if you were wondering

[662dawg]

I like Steve but he's likely gonna write a fantasy post about "other" candidates when it's 100% confirmed to be Lebby simply to get some clicks lol. I can see it coming from miles away.

[SPMT]

absolutely. That's why my problem is with many of our posters during the search not being based in reality

Right on

[Coursesuper]

I like Steve but he's likely gonna write a fantasy post about "other" candidates when it's 100% confirmed to be Lebby simply to get some clicks lol. I can see it coming from miles away.

That one is no friend of state. His info is trash, and you are dead on about in it got the clicks.

[confucius say]

ok- but when you tell people the top priority is a sitting HC- you look dumb when it isnt. One of those most of our fanbase had ranked above our apparent choice just 7 days ago

Nobody ever said our "top priority," above all else and no matter what, was to hire a sitting HC. Nobody said that. If you can hire a proven P5 one, sure. But if it's Odom and Sumrall and Fritz, lebby upside is higher

ETA: I do agree with you that many of our fans think our job is better than it is.

[Homedawg]

I like Steve but he's likely gonna write a fantasy post about "other" candidates when it's 100% confirmed to be Lebby simply to get some clicks lol. I can see it coming from miles away.

The best part is gonna be when he tells you he knew all along ..... or by whatever day. When Jc left the ad office he got cutout from us. But kudos to him for working the phones to Ad's and agents and whoever. But he didn't get jack from here.

[MabenMaroon]

Now we need a good DC and then hit the portal

This 110%!

[Coach34]

Nobody ever said our "top priority," above all else and no matter what, was to hire a sitting HC. Nobody said that. If you can hire a proven P5 one, sure. But if it's Odom and Sumrall and Fritz, lebby upside is higher

Actually they did- all our beat writers, check writers, and message board big mouths said. We gloated about being a Top 20-25 job and we were not going to gamble on a coordinator this time. Stop trying to rewrite history now

[viverlibre]

That's in the last 45 years. We haven't won one in 80. Should we just count the last ten??20??? Won't like that result either I'm afraid. But we didn't win 10 in 18. We didn't even win 9.

No one cares about what happened 45 years ago. Most don't even care about happened 10 years ago. Mich State hasn't won enough to be considered a power or blue blood.

I think we all realize what happened in 2018, that's why i added, if Dan had stayed, we'd won 10 or 11, we all agree on that. We'd won at least 8 every year since and we'd have a higher status as a program. None of that happened though, Dan left and we hired SloMo and we are where we are now.

[confucius say]

Actually they did- all our beat writers, check writers, and message board big mouths said. We gloated about being a Top 20-25 job and we were not going to gamble on a coordinator this time. Stop trying to rewrite history now

Please link me where anybody involved in the search said that our number 1 priority above all else was to hire a sitting head coach. Even if a message board big mouth or Paul or Rosey said it (and i didn't see where they did) doesn't matter.

The people gloating about us being a top 20-25 program may have said our number one priority regardless of anything else was to hire a sitting head coach, but they are insane and can't be trusted.

[EdwardDrayton]

Actually they did- all our beat writers, check writers, and message board big mouths said. We gloated about being a Top 20-25 job and we were not going to gamble on a coordinator this time. Stop trying to rewrite history now

But if we're sporting a tiny one with no chance to satisfy the woman of our dreams, then what's the point. Spend millions, win an Egg Bowl trophy 50% of the time and play postseason in Memphis. Is that why we're in this?!!?

[BrunswickDawg]

To be fair, Georgia was a sleeping giant with a hell of a lot more resources than us.

We will see how it pans out.

UGA has never been a sleeping giant - they have always been awake. They had three Nattys pre-Kirby. Other than a handful of seasons since WWII have they not been competing for at least SEC if not national titles. But, like the Braves, they tended to always choke from about '85- '20.