Barry Odom Rumor

[Really Clark?]

Considering this has been said at least 2/3 times a day, it's clearly hard to grasp.

Clearly. I know many think you just offer millions and you have your pick of whatever coach you want...it just doesn't work that way.

[confucius say]

There are only about 20-25 jobs better than ours. But I get your point.

There are that many in the new sec and new big 10 alone. Maybe more.

[Cooterpoot]

I know this isn?t the best barometer but KU?s endowment is 4 times ours. It?s not unreasonable to say it?s, at best, a lateral move.

Endowment has what to do with athletics? Nothing really. Vandy and Stanford could dominate if that was the case.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Uhhh, he's never coached the DL. He's only coaches LB's and safety's as a position coach.

He's the guru of Edge Rushers- like OLBs in the 3-4 scheme that Mizzou employed in Gary Pinkel's time. Yes, they are OLBs, but in the DE mold

So he can be the LB coach then, happy?

[Coach34]

If you really believe that Kansas to MSU is a lateral move then what's the point.

Well, anybody that thinks our job is Top 25 is delusional. The GusBus turning down UPig should be a hint. UCF is now in a major conference in a great location. No brutal SEC to fight. Realignment has changed alot of things in a major way moving forward as has NIL.

[Percho]

I gotta say it. I don't like Odom b/c Dan beat him when we played Mizzou. If I remember Dan rolled him pretty good.

Odom would not be in my top #10. I believe we can do better than him.

The U of MO was in a state of cluster 17 when he was there. A lot of crap going on.

[bobtail bob]

Considering this has been said at least 2/3 times a day, it's clearly hard to grasp.

Let me put it another way for you.
You pick out your guy and throw enough money at him. Tie it to incentives and guarantee him enough that it’s worthwhile. I’m not holding the money bags so IDK. What Ido know is don’t send me anymore bullshit pumping up about giving my money to prop this second rate run crap up. I knew Moorhead was a garbage hire and I wasn’t fully on board with Leach either. Neither were a fit for our In state kids. Big rugged dominating at the line of scrimmage has always been where we have found our minuscule success with and what I see us want to get back with. Young energetic with fresh ideas and head coaching experience is what I want to see. Otherwise I’m about to dump this joke of a a so called football program. It’s been a failure since Cohen took over. Bottom line it’s up to our Alpaca faced president and his latest placement to make me think they are serious.So far . I ain’t feeling it.

[CadaverDawg]

Like always on message boards, the truth lies in the middle. We aren't as bad of a job as 34 says, but we aren't desirable enough to throw $8 mil out there and have every coach in America making $7.5 or less knocking on our door.

And there is a big difference between a job being "easier" to win a Championship at, and a job being more "desirable. We are a more desirable job than Kansas to most coaches. High profile SEC job in the best conference in the land. Most coaches are confident and competitive, so it doesn't scare them to have to compete in the SEC...especially making $2-$3 mil more per year.
Not to mention, Mullen proved you can win 6-9 games per year and stay as long as you want, and make life changing money without achieving life changing results.
But not a lateral move. Kansas doesn't fire coaches 10 games in bc they aren't trending up. It's easier to win at Kansas bc the conference is weaker...that's it. But guys like Leipold don't seem to be the type that wants comfort and isn't confident in his ability to win in whatever conference he's in. If he's scared, stay at Kansas, we don't need a wuss.

We should absolutely call every big boy out there and gauge interest and let them know we're offering big money to take on the big job of knocking off the big boys in the big division of the big conference. And let them know it's going to take someone with big balls, but they'll be rewarded with a big salary and big fan support. And see who answers the bell. We may not all be fired up over the next hire...but winning cures all, and puts asses in seats. That being said, we don't need to botch this hire, so go big or go home Selmon.

[MBDawg601]

Like always on message boards, the truth lies in the middle. We aren't as bad of a job as 34 says, but we aren't desirable enough to throw $8 mil out there and have every coach in America making $7.5 or less knocking on our door.

And there is a big difference between a job being "easier" to win a Championship at, and a job being more "desirable. We are a more desirable job than Kansas to most coaches. High profile SEC job in the best conference in the land. Most coaches are confident and competitive, so it doesn't scare them to have to compete in the SEC...especially making $2-$3 mil more per year.
Not to mention, Mullen proved you can win 6-9 games per year and stay as long as you want, and make life changing money without achieving life changing results.
But not a lateral move. Kansas doesn't fire coaches 10 games in bc they aren't trending up. It's easier to win at Kansas bc the conference is weaker...that's it. But guys like Leipold don't seem to be the type that wants comfort and isn't confident in his ability to win in whatever conference he's in. If he's scared, stay at Kansas, we don't need a wuss.

We should absolutely call every big boy out there and gauge interest and let them know we're offering big money to take on the big job of knocking off the big boys in the big division of the big conference. And let them know it's going to take someone with big balls, but they'll be rewarded with a big salary and big fan support. And see who answers the bell. We may not all be fired up over the next hire...but winning cures all, and puts asses in seats. That being said, we don't need to botch this hire, so go big or go home Selmon.

You nailed this post.

We need you calling candidates ASAP.

[DesotoDog1967]

Has Chadwell been made an offer for 6.5?

[TrapGame]

Per Bo Bounds, Barry Odom and Gus Malzahn are unicorns. We'd be very lucky to have either one.

If it's true Gus turned down Arkansas then he sure as hell ain't coming here.

Barry Odom with a good defensive staff and a hell of an OC, yeah, I might could get behind that.

[Catfish]

Per Bo Bounds, Barry Odom and Gus Malzahn are unicorns. We'd be very lucky to have either one.

If it's true Gus turned down Arkansas then he sure as hell ain't coming here.

Barry Odom with a good defensive staff and a hell of an OC, yeah, I might could get behind that.

I saw a post on Hogville that said she wasn't leaving Florida.

[TrapGame]

I saw a post on Hogville that said she wasn't leaving Florida.

Yep, she ain't coming to Starkville. Gus ain't leaving Florida. This is his final stop.

If we wind up with Odom it's b/c 6 or 7 other coaches told us no, including Tom Herman.

[Cooterpoot]

I feel confident we're working on a coach behind the scenes and a lot of this stuff is agent talk and smoke screen. Throw in the stupidity of former players and Joe Judge and that summarizes this search.

[RockyDog]

^^^^^^ this. It doesn't matter where you rank in the country whether it's 25 or 30 when you're at best 11-15 in the league.

Yep, and we aren?t close to a top 25 job because we have never spent like one. We have gone cheap on coaches at every opportunity, even with Leach.

The only time we have paid was to retain Dan after his 4th or 5th flirtation.

We go cheap on HC, staff and recruiting. Until the pocket book is opened, the top 25 talk is laughable. There is a reason we are picked 6th in the West every season.

[Maverick91]

Like always on message boards, the truth lies in the middle. We aren't as bad of a job as 34 says, but we aren't desirable enough to throw $8 mil out there and have every coach in America making $7.5 or less knocking on our door.

And there is a big difference between a job being "easier" to win a Championship at, and a job being more "desirable. We are a more desirable job than Kansas to most coaches. High profile SEC job in the best conference in the land. Most coaches are confident and competitive, so it doesn't scare them to have to compete in the SEC...especially making $2-$3 mil more per year.
Not to mention, Mullen proved you can win 6-9 games per year and stay as long as you want, and make life changing money without achieving life changing results.
But not a lateral move. Kansas doesn't fire coaches 10 games in bc they aren't trending up. It's easier to win at Kansas bc the conference is weaker...that's it. But guys like Leipold don't seem to be the type that wants comfort and isn't confident in his ability to win in whatever conference he's in. If he's scared, stay at Kansas, we don't need a wuss.

We should absolutely call every big boy out there and gauge interest and let them know we're offering big money to take on the big job of knocking off the big boys in the big division of the big conference. And let them know it's going to take someone with big balls, but they'll be rewarded with a big salary and big fan support. And see who answers the bell. We may not all be fired up over the next hire...but winning cures all, and puts asses in seats. That being said, we don't need to botch this hire, so go big or go home Selmon.

Perfectly said! I like that we fired a coach ten games in it at least for the moment told me we are a king seriously.

Edit: kind of NOT king

[Activated Alpha]

Like always on message boards, the truth lies in the middle. We aren't as bad of a job as 34 says, but we aren't desirable enough to throw $8 mil out there and have every coach in America making $7.5 or less knocking on our door.

And there is a big difference between a job being "easier" to win a Championship at, and a job being more "desirable. We are a more desirable job than Kansas to most coaches. High profile SEC job in the best conference in the land. Most coaches are confident and competitive, so it doesn't scare them to have to compete in the SEC...especially making $2-$3 mil more per year.
Not to mention, Mullen proved you can win 6-9 games per year and stay as long as you want, and make life changing money without achieving life changing results.
But not a lateral move. Kansas doesn't fire coaches 10 games in bc they aren't trending up. It's easier to win at Kansas bc the conference is weaker...that's it. But guys like Leipold don't seem to be the type that wants comfort and isn't confident in his ability to win in whatever conference he's in. If he's scared, stay at Kansas, we don't need a wuss.

We should absolutely call every big boy out there and gauge interest and let them know we're offering big money to take on the big job of knocking off the big boys in the big division of the big conference. And let them know it's going to take someone with big balls, but they'll be rewarded with a big salary and big fan support. And see who answers the bell. We may not all be fired up over the next hire...but winning cures all, and puts asses in seats. That being said, we don't need to botch this hire, so go big or go home Selmon.

Well said. Too many people have been beaten into submission with their Larry Templeton mentality.

[TrapGame]

I feel confident we're working on a coach behind the scenes and a lot of this stuff is agent talk and smoke screen. Throw in the stupidity of former players and Joe Judge and that summarizes this search.

That's how I feel. If Selmon is as savvy as some say all of this is behind the scenes away from prying eyes and itchy keyboard fingers.

[Maverick91]

I feel confident we're working on a coach behind the scenes and a lot of this stuff is agent talk and smoke screen. Throw in the stupidity of former players and Joe Judge and that summarizes this search.

This is how I feel, everything this week feels Smokey with no real fire behind it.

[Santiago]

Seems like Chadwell, then an unknown on the current list discussed, and then a drop off to tier B.
Lashley working a pay raise.
I would still be interested in Kinne for his upside and ability to evaluate and quickly improve a roster. Glad I am not making the career decisions, but from a fan standpoint, I like the offense of Kinne, and think that would help us self recruit skill players to MSU.