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Originally Posted by
STATEBALLIN
I agree. I told some at ON3 we would be a lateral move for him and some about blew a fuse. But if anything, our job is harder as far as reaching the playoffs is concerned.
This all day
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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The Big 12 is about to be a 1-bid league in football, maybe 2 in a good year. The SEC will have 4 or 5 teams in the playoffs every year.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Yes they would.
Us being a top 25 job is pretty deceiving imo. While the first part might be true, where do we rank in our conference?
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Another bargain bin, cast off bum. Spend the money and quit being cheap. If not just drop football altogether. Either you want to win or you dont
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Damn. Just stop with this lateral move crap. Act like we deserve as well as anyone; spend the money and get our guy. Sheesh.
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Senior Member
I know this isn?t the best barometer but KU?s endowment is 4 times ours. It?s not unreasonable to say it?s, at best, a lateral move.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Us being a top 25 job is pretty deceiving imo. While the first part might be true, where do we rank in our conference?
Being a top 32 job in America as Head coach of the Panthers is pretty deceiving imo. While the first part might be true, where do they rank in their conference?
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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Originally Posted by
bobtail bob
Another bargain bin, cast off bum. Spend the money and quit being cheap. If not just drop football altogether. Either you want to win or you dont
Ok, this keeps coming up but if we don't get the interest from someone who requires that kind of money then you don't spend that kind of money. We have already let agents know we will spend heavily if warranted for the right guy. Up to $8 MIL if necessary, but those coaches so far are down on the interest level from their side.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
How is it not? Texas and OU have left the Big 12. He can win 10 games with some luck in that league.
We however cannot. Have you looked at our schedule next year? It's going to be like that every year from now on. Texas, OU plus the Big 6 of the SEC puts us fighting hard to stay in the Top 12 of the SEC
NIL and Realignment has changed everything
Because they are a basketball school in the middle of nowhere in a state that doesn't produce talent, and in a league that is about to become a joke.
We are a school in the best conference in the country, fertile recruiting grounds with a large tv deal, big athletic budget, passionate football fan base, growing NIL, and have actually been relevant in the CFP rankings.
Don't talk to me about next years schedule. We've been in the SEC West the past 20 years. I know all about schedule strength. Most people with any sort of football IQ know an 8-4 MSU team is probably better than any other conference's 10-2 team. And getting rid of divisions is a good thing for MSU.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Because they are a basketball school in the middle of nowhere in a state that doesn't produce talent, and in a league that is about to become a joke.
We are a school in the best conference in the country, fertile recruiting grounds with a large tv deal, big athletic budget, passionate football fan base, growing NIL, and have actually been relevant in the CFP rankings.
Don't talk to me about next years schedule. We've been in the SEC West the past 20 years. I know all about schedule strength. Most people with any sort of football IQ know an 8-4 MSU team is probably better than any other conference's 10-2 team. And getting rid of divisions is a good thing for MSU.
Well- they currently have more talent than us and they have money. A 10-2 Big 12 team will be ranked higher than an 8-4 SEC team. Thats just facts. The Big 12 is just going to become the new Pac-12 basically. Adding 2 more powers to this conference is in no way, shape, or form good for State. Not to mention 9 conference games is coming soon as well. TV will demand it
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Selmon is keeping everything very tight lipped but doing an exhaustive search. Haven't heard a specific interview yet but we have reached out to several. Fritz, Sumrall, Lebby, Malzhan, Chadwell...several more we have reached out to. Judge, Odom and Petrino are very interested and pushing to get in the door.
Heard anything about Rhett Lashlee getting an interview? I've heard his name mentioned a lot.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Well- they currently have more talent than us and they have money. A 10-2 Big 12 team will be ranked higher than an 8-4 SEC team. Thats just facts. The Big 12 is just going to become the new Pac-12 basically. Adding 2 more powers to this conference is in no way, shape, or form good for State. Not to mention 9 conference games is coming soon as well. TV will demand it
If you really believe that Kansas to MSU is a lateral move then what's the point.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Heard anything about Rhett Lashlee getting an interview? I've heard his name mentioned a lot.
Lashlee is #2 in my book. Really exciting offense
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Heard anything about Rhett Lashlee getting an interview? I've heard his name mentioned a lot.
We have reached out to his representatives, we are interested in him for sure. Selmon ain't playing trying to get the best possible A list candidates. But I haven't heard of any specific interviews yet.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
I heard a rumor that Odom is really lobbying hard for our job. He's even saying he can get Kendal Briles to be OC.
He can be the DL coach. That's his true skill. Not HC and not really a DC either.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
He can be the DL coach. That's his true skill. Not HC and not really a DC either.
Uhhh, he's never coached the DL. He's only coaches LB's and safety's as a position coach.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Us being a top 25 job is pretty deceiving imo. While the first part might be true, where do we rank in our conference?
^^^^^^ this. It doesn't matter where you rank in the country whether it's 25 or 30 when you're at best 11-15 in the league.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Ok, this keeps coming up but if we don't get the interest from someone who requires that kind of money then you don't spend that kind of money. We have already let agents know we will spend heavily if warranted for the right guy. Up to $8 MIL if necessary, but those coaches so far are down on the interest level from their side.
Considering this has been said at least 2/3 times a day, it's clearly hard to grasp.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
We have reached out to his representatives, we are interested in him for sure. Selmon ain't playing trying to get the best possible A list candidates. But I haven't heard of any specific interviews yet.
Appreciate man!
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Appreciate man!
No problem buddy!
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