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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    7/31/2023: The offense is going to be really good. Starters coming back everywhere. 10 wins is a possibility

    9/15/2023: We aren't showing anything yet. Looks for the O to really open up next week.

    9/30/2023: We aren't very talented and all of this is Leach's recruiting faults

    10/15/2023: I really like what I'm seeing on O. We were on pace for 300 yards for the game at the half

    11/5/2023: We need money for the NIL


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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Moorhead got fired for an avg of 7-5
    He didn't get fired for going 7-5.
    In fact, going 6-6 to average 7-5 kept him his job.
    Then he had the program fall apart off the field that got him fired.

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    Blah, blah, blah excuses, excuses, excuses for your coaching boys. If the same was happening and Leach was coach all we'd hear is "we suck cause muh Airbone". It's all excuses for this staff. Pathetic loser excuse crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    7/31/2023: The offense is going to be really good. Starters coming back everywhere. 10 wins is a possibility

    9/15/2023: We aren't showing anything yet. Looks for the O to really open up next week.

    9/30/2023: We aren't very talented and all of this is Leach's recruiting faults

    10/15/2023: I really like what I'm seeing on O. We were on pace for 300 yards for the game at the half

    11/5/2023: We need money for the NIL


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    Take the L 34. Take the L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calidawg View Post
    There's no reason for us to try in NIL. We will never be higher than 15 out of 16th. We are the poorest school.

    We need to get back to finding diamonds in the rough and developing talent and mix that in with below the radar transfers.

    Change is contuning to happen. Hope we can stay in the SEC in the next 15 years. Wouldn't be shocked if we're asked to not join the next realignment
    They want us out and I wouldn't be too surprised if MSU football isn't in a major league one day. We don't have the beans to compete now.

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    Who gives a 17? If it is a money race in NIL, we have already lost and cannot raise enough money year in and out to compete. I am going to invest my donation for my family in my brokerage account, and enjoy retirement early as opposed to giving to the NIL. Bulldog football is dead due to NIL. Simple as that.

    We raise 10 million, everyone else raises 20. If we raise 20, they raise 30. We cannot compete with that kind of juice. We simply do not have that many alumni to give that much year in and out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Who gives a 17? If it is a money race in NIL, we have already lost and cannot raise enough money year in and out to compete. I am going to invest my donation for my family in my brokerage account, and enjoy retirement early as opposed to giving to the NIL. Bulldog football is dead due to NIL. Simple as that.

    We raise 10 million, everyone else raises 20. If we raise 20, they raise 30. We cannot compete with that kind of juice. We simply do not have that many alumni to give that much year in and out.
    That's why there needs to be SEC NIL sharing and an NIL cap, like we see in professional sports

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    We average 45k in attendance of "normal people" each game. If 50% of those people donate only $20 per month that is $5.4M. If these "cigar boys" continue throwing in another $1.5M per year that is almost $7M annually just for football. I'm sure that is still low but that buys you plenty of Mississippi/Alabama/Tennessee high 3 and low 4 stars. Right coach gets us 8 wins annually with that roster.

    Selmon has to figure this shit out, change the fanbase perspective on NIL and if you are one of the ones on here complaining about NIL and refusing to donate, just know you are the problem.

    https://bulldoginitiative.com
    All these ?if we only get 45,000 people to give X/month? posts are insane. You will never, ever get that many people to give much of anything on a monthly basis. NIL is about big donors and always will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    1. What a wonderful day it was to enjoy lacrosse and foosball. Woke up in a great mood after another home win and clinched playoff berth. Quite the feat for a team that starts 5 ninth graders plus had two other starters suspended for their final home game. Can't behave in the building- cant get on the field tho amirite? Very proud of The Enforcer as his team won 17-4 in lacrosse and he helped to hold the other team scoreless during his 2Q's of play. But he is on an all-star team basically so its an expectation. Curious to see how they do in Dallas next weekend. Rewarded him with a seafood gumbo for dinner last night that turned out perfectly.

    2. Last night was bad. Earth-shaking news huh? Injuries are really hurting this team and its just ugly.

    3. Really liked the long drive last night but of course we couldnt finish it off like we should have. Did what we needed to do in keeping the D off the field and burn clock. Wright continued his terrible decision-making with a Pick-6 that totally changed the game. Took a sack on 2nd and 8 to kill another drive. Took a sack on a roll out pass. Terrible, terrible decisions at the QB position. I have heard that we have reached to a couple of QB's for next year that are interested in coming to State. All that could change obviously depending on the direction of our program.

    4. We finally had a Parson sighting. Did ok for his first college game but of course had a delay of game to start things off. Held the ball too long as most young guys do. Should see more of him moving forward

    5. Kentucky came out and abused Preston on the first drive. Deep pass then a PA pass for the TD. Makes you wonder why our Secondary is so bad? We dont have the talent we had last year obviously. McBath is still here coaching CB's- but we have a new Safety coach. Our Secondary is just terrible. Our course we dont rush the passer well and our LB's couldnt cover me. Jett dropped a pick to start the 2nd half that could have built some momentum. Just not making plays.

    6. Nice job by Lewis on the jet Kentucky ran. It was so good the announcer said he should hang with the Hookers in Pontotoc- https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/s...12810619277680

    7. Now let's address the elephant- what to do with our football program? I laugh when I see some of the names thrown out by people on their coaching wish list or who they think we could possibly get. Some of you act like it's still 2019 or 2005. It simply comes down to one thing:

    N I L

    Want better players? Contribute to NIL. EVERYBODY that signs now is demanding some type of NIL deal. Mad this staff is recruiting jucos? Well, they are cheaper than portal guys. Our pocketbook isnt deep enough for going strictly portal. Mad that Mississippi is winning? Mississippi is paying over 300K for their back-up QB. They are paying a TE 100K. They spent money. Their fans live to talk about how they pay for players. They have alot more money committed to NIL than we do. We, on the other hand, do not remotely have that mentality in our fanbase. Many of our fans are the opposite. "Screw that. If a scholarship and what they get now isnt enough then I'll do something else with my money" I've heard and read that many times. We are currently 13th in the SEC in NIL- and Vandy is only behind us because they dont care enough. Want better players? Write a check. Nobody signs for free now. NIL is no longer for your best guys- it's everybody.

    Want to hire a new Coach and staff? The first question every interested coach in our job is going to ask is- "Why are you 13th in the SEC in NIL? What is your plan as AD to raise the 10MM-15MM NIL per year it takes to compete in SEC football?" That is going to be what every coach asks our AD when we try to make a hire. Tom Herman is 48- he is going to choose his next P5 hire wisely because it could be his last chance. He willing to go at it with the 15th ranked war chest out of 16 in the SEC? Highly unlikely. And that will be the case with many guys looking to advance their career.

    You guys keep on with the fallacy that I'm covering for this staff because of personal reasons. I dont care if we fire Arnett or not. I was just willing to give them a chance unlike many of you. Want to pull the trigger? ok. Just know now that things have changed from just 4 years ago when we hired Leach. We are sitting here with very little draftable talent now- and a tiny NIL compared to the rest of the SEC as it adds 2 more giants. It's an arms race out there and we are Denmark.

    Hail State
    We are not 13th in NIL. This ignorance should not stand. I strongly suggest you give Charlie a call and educate yourself on this topic.

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    This staff is fired yall don't even need to argue about it anymore. The wheels are turning and ITS COMING.

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    MS high school playing Lacrosse? That is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    1. What a wonderful day it was to enjoy lacrosse and foosball. Woke up in a great mood after another home win and clinched playoff berth. Quite the feat for a team that starts 5 ninth graders plus had two other starters suspended for their final home game. Can't behave in the building- cant get on the field tho amirite? Very proud of The Enforcer as his team won 17-4 in lacrosse and he helped to hold the other team scoreless during his 2Q's of play. But he is on an all-star team basically so its an expectation. Curious to see how they do in Dallas next weekend. Rewarded him with a seafood gumbo for dinner last night that turned out perfectly.

    2. Last night was bad. Earth-shaking news huh? Injuries are really hurting this team and its just ugly.

    3. Really liked the long drive last night but of course we couldnt finish it off like we should have. Did what we needed to do in keeping the D off the field and burn clock. Wright continued his terrible decision-making with a Pick-6 that totally changed the game. Took a sack on 2nd and 8 to kill another drive. Took a sack on a roll out pass. Terrible, terrible decisions at the QB position. I have heard that we have reached to a couple of QB's for next year that are interested in coming to State. All that could change obviously depending on the direction of our program.

    4. We finally had a Parson sighting. Did ok for his first college game but of course had a delay of game to start things off. Held the ball too long as most young guys do. Should see more of him moving forward

    5. Kentucky came out and abused Preston on the first drive. Deep pass then a PA pass for the TD. Makes you wonder why our Secondary is so bad? We dont have the talent we had last year obviously. McBath is still here coaching CB's- but we have a new Safety coach. Our Secondary is just terrible. Our course we dont rush the passer well and our LB's couldnt cover me. Jett dropped a pick to start the 2nd half that could have built some momentum. Just not making plays.

    6. Nice job by Lewis on the jet Kentucky ran. It was so good the announcer said he should hang with the Hookers in Pontotoc- https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/s...12810619277680

    7. Now let's address the elephant- what to do with our football program? I laugh when I see some of the names thrown out by people on their coaching wish list or who they think we could possibly get. Some of you act like it's still 2019 or 2005. It simply comes down to one thing:

    N I L

    Want better players? Contribute to NIL. EVERYBODY that signs now is demanding some type of NIL deal. Mad this staff is recruiting jucos? Well, they are cheaper than portal guys. Our pocketbook isnt deep enough for going strictly portal. Mad that Mississippi is winning? Mississippi is paying over 300K for their back-up QB. They are paying a TE 100K. They spent money. Their fans live to talk about how they pay for players. They have alot more money committed to NIL than we do. We, on the other hand, do not remotely have that mentality in our fanbase. Many of our fans are the opposite. "Screw that. If a scholarship and what they get now isnt enough then I'll do something else with my money" I've heard and read that many times. We are currently 13th in the SEC in NIL- and Vandy is only behind us because they dont care enough. Want better players? Write a check. Nobody signs for free now. NIL is no longer for your best guys- it's everybody.

    Want to hire a new Coach and staff? The first question every interested coach in our job is going to ask is- "Why are you 13th in the SEC in NIL? What is your plan as AD to raise the 10MM-15MM NIL per year it takes to compete in SEC football?" That is going to be what every coach asks our AD when we try to make a hire. Tom Herman is 48- he is going to choose his next P5 hire wisely because it could be his last chance. He willing to go at it with the 15th ranked war chest out of 16 in the SEC? Highly unlikely. And that will be the case with many guys looking to advance their career.

    You guys keep on with the fallacy that I'm covering for this staff because of personal reasons. I dont care if we fire Arnett or not. I was just willing to give them a chance unlike many of you. Want to pull the trigger? ok. Just know now that things have changed from just 4 years ago when we hired Leach. We are sitting here with very little draftable talent now- and a tiny NIL compared to the rest of the SEC as it adds 2 more giants. It's an arms race out there and we are Denmark.

    Hail State
    NIL commitment from me once I know the influencers are all cleared out of the Bryan building and alumni group that has been in Arnett's ear. Otherwise, no. Not giving to it when a group has nuked a program out of selfishness and redneck ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    This staff is fired yall don't even need to argue about it anymore. The wheels are turning and ITS COMING.
    Not just the staff, but we need to clear out those having the influence. And then the water toters in media need to be called out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    1. What a wonderful day it was to enjoy lacrosse and foosball. Woke up in a great mood after another home win and clinched playoff berth. Quite the feat for a team that starts 5 ninth graders plus had two other starters suspended for their final home game. Can't behave in the building- cant get on the field tho amirite? Very proud of The Enforcer as his team won 17-4 in lacrosse and he helped to hold the other team scoreless during his 2Q's of play. But he is on an all-star team basically so its an expectation. Curious to see how they do in Dallas next weekend. Rewarded him with a seafood gumbo for dinner last night that turned out perfectly.

    2. Last night was bad. Earth-shaking news huh? Injuries are really hurting this team and its just ugly.

    3. Really liked the long drive last night but of course we couldnt finish it off like we should have. Did what we needed to do in keeping the D off the field and burn clock. Wright continued his terrible decision-making with a Pick-6 that totally changed the game. Took a sack on 2nd and 8 to kill another drive. Took a sack on a roll out pass. Terrible, terrible decisions at the QB position. I have heard that we have reached to a couple of QB's for next year that are interested in coming to State. All that could change obviously depending on the direction of our program.

    4. We finally had a Parson sighting. Did ok for his first college game but of course had a delay of game to start things off. Held the ball too long as most young guys do. Should see more of him moving forward

    5. Kentucky came out and abused Preston on the first drive. Deep pass then a PA pass for the TD. Makes you wonder why our Secondary is so bad? We dont have the talent we had last year obviously. McBath is still here coaching CB's- but we have a new Safety coach. Our Secondary is just terrible. Our course we dont rush the passer well and our LB's couldnt cover me. Jett dropped a pick to start the 2nd half that could have built some momentum. Just not making plays.

    6. Nice job by Lewis on the jet Kentucky ran. It was so good the announcer said he should hang with the Hookers in Pontotoc- https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/s...12810619277680

    7. Now let's address the elephant- what to do with our football program? I laugh when I see some of the names thrown out by people on their coaching wish list or who they think we could possibly get. Some of you act like it's still 2019 or 2005. It simply comes down to one thing:

    N I L

    Want better players? Contribute to NIL. EVERYBODY that signs now is demanding some type of NIL deal. Mad this staff is recruiting jucos? Well, they are cheaper than portal guys. Our pocketbook isnt deep enough for going strictly portal. Mad that Mississippi is winning? Mississippi is paying over 300K for their back-up QB. They are paying a TE 100K. They spent money. Their fans live to talk about how they pay for players. They have alot more money committed to NIL than we do. We, on the other hand, do not remotely have that mentality in our fanbase. Many of our fans are the opposite. "Screw that. If a scholarship and what they get now isnt enough then I'll do something else with my money" I've heard and read that many times. We are currently 13th in the SEC in NIL- and Vandy is only behind us because they dont care enough. Want better players? Write a check. Nobody signs for free now. NIL is no longer for your best guys- it's everybody.

    Want to hire a new Coach and staff? The first question every interested coach in our job is going to ask is- "Why are you 13th in the SEC in NIL? What is your plan as AD to raise the 10MM-15MM NIL per year it takes to compete in SEC football?" That is going to be what every coach asks our AD when we try to make a hire. Tom Herman is 48- he is going to choose his next P5 hire wisely because it could be his last chance. He willing to go at it with the 15th ranked war chest out of 16 in the SEC? Highly unlikely. And that will be the case with many guys looking to advance their career.

    You guys keep on with the fallacy that I'm covering for this staff because of personal reasons. I dont care if we fire Arnett or not. I was just willing to give them a chance unlike many of you. Want to pull the trigger? ok. Just know now that things have changed from just 4 years ago when we hired Leach. We are sitting here with very little draftable talent now- and a tiny NIL compared to the rest of the SEC as it adds 2 more giants. It's an arms race out there and we are Denmark.

    Hail State
    If only we had been developing an offensive system that works to neutralize against better talent....oh wait... we were implementing that but the rednecks took over.
    I can just imagine if this same group of supporters were around when the forward pass was in the early years utilized. This MSU group would have been on the side of things saying it will doom the game.
    Last edited by Santiago; 11-05-2023 at 06:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    This staff is fired yall don't even need to argue about it anymore. The wheels are turning and ITS COMING.
    Here?s to hoping you are right.

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    There are multiple people very close to Charlie and the initiative that will tell you that while we once were very bad off with NIL, we are much better now. We are competing financially with teams in our “range” so to speak. I don’t believe our NIL is as bad as this post makes out. It’s obviously not on the level of teams who are spending A&M type money, but we aren’t going to lose a coach we could normally get due to NIL in my opinion. That’s not to say some won’t turn us down, but I think it will be the type that turned us down prior to NIL anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msudawg1200 View Post
    Take the L 34. Take the L.
    I wanna see my post saying 10 wins was possible.
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb View Post
    We are not 13th in NIL. This ignorance should not stand. I strongly suggest you give Charlie a call and educate yourself on this topic.
    I know about the million dollar donation. Still doesn’t change our spot as 13th
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