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    From the Money Guys

    Arnett wins 6 and he will be the coach in 2024

    Saturday is huge for our HC
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Arnett wins 6 and he will be the coach in 2024

    Saturday is huge for our HC
    We aren't firing a 6-6 coach. Now getting there is the question. 5-7 and I'll hold my bets. But wouldn't shove them to the middle either way depending on how we look.

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    Then our money guys are dumbasses. 6 wins in a bad SEC is just terrible. Hope they like ole miss whipping our butts in the foreseeable future and in recruiting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    We aren't firing a 6-6 coach. Now getting there is the question. 5-7 and I'll hold my bets. But wouldn't shove them to the middle either way depending on how we look.
    Why do people keep saying we aren't firing a 6-6 coach when we just did it a few years ago and he beat ole miss?

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    These the same money guys who told you we weren't hiring Mike Leach?

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    I just don't see how you can let 1 game make a difference.

    Let's say we squeak one out this weekend, beat USM, but get skull drug by A&M and OM. Do you really feel more confident in Arnett than you would if he were 5-7? DWS is going to be ghost town next year either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civildawg View Post
    Why do people keep saying we aren't firing a 6-6 coach when we just did it a few years ago and he beat ole miss?
    Well we didn't fire him at the end of season though. We fired him after everything imploded during bowl practice, everything going on inside the program came to a head and our bowl loss to finish 6-7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    These the same money guys who told you we weren't hiring Mike Leach?
    No. I never said the money guys told me we werent hiring Leach. I just didnt think we would be stupid enough to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by civildawg View Post
    Why do people keep saying we aren't firing a 6-6 coach when we just did it a few years ago and he beat ole miss?
    Because they saw JoMo's lack of accountability couldnt be covered up anymore once the LB broke the QB's jaw and the player's floor of the team hotel smelled like a Cheech and Chong party
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    Quote Originally Posted by civildawg View Post
    Then our money guys are dumbasses. 6 wins in a bad SEC is just terrible. Hope they like ole miss whipping our butts in the foreseeable future and in recruiting
    Mississippi has at least twice the NIL we do. They spent over 3 million on their last class/transfers. We are wayyyyyyy behind that
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    We need one super rich alumnus to donate 10 million to NIL and go change the game.

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    Let's look at it this way, I understand the thought of well just because he is 6-6 and have looked so bad this year shouldn't be grounds to keep him. But can anyone name a coach that has been fired in their first year going .500? I can't think of one. Caldwell is the only one recently I could think of being fired after 1 year in the SEC and he went 2-10. Johnson resigned that summer and he was promoted to HC. Outside of that, I've got nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Let's look at it this way, I understand the thought of well just because he is 6-6 and have looked so bad this year shouldn't be grounds to keep him. But can anyone name a coach that has been fired in their first year going .500? I can't think of one. Caldwell is the only one recently I could think of being fired after 1 year in the SEC and he went 2-10. Johnson resigned that summer and he was promoted to HC. Outside of that, I've got nothing.
    Times have changed, it’s a lot to evaluate with this team and staff. If you look at how we played so far then it tells a whole lot. I haven’t seen one game we have played and thought, “we looked really good”.
    We are not fundamentally coached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Arnett wins 6 and he will be the coach in 2024

    Saturday is huge for our HC
    Even with a blowout loss to OM?

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    I?ll ask it this way:

    Is it because they feel he?s a solid head coach that will get better with some experience?

    Or

    They just don?t want the perception that MSU would fire a 6-6 coach even if he may not be the right guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Times have changed, it’s a lot to evaluate with this team and staff. If you look at how we played so far then it tells a whole lot. I haven’t seen one game we have played and thought, “we looked really good”.
    We are not fundamentally coached.
    Times have changed, I agree but in recent history what school fires a .500 coach in their first year. They don't and I'm not lobbying for keeping him but there is a realty that schools, any school really, doesn't fire a coach for being .500 his first year. Add to that he still would have a 7-6 career record. Maybe it's happened and I can't remember it. But Caldwell is the only one I could come with and he was 2-10.

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    Arnett has lost the team and the fanbase. Even he lucks out and wins 6 or 7 games, it's time to move on.

    For any entertainment product, whether that's sports, books, tv shows, etc., you have to keep the fans happy first and foremost or you're done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Arnett has lost the team and the fanbase. Even he lucks out and wins 6 or 7 games, it's time to move on.

    For any entertainment product, whether that's sports, books, tv shows, etc., you have to keep the fans happy first and foremost or you're done.
    Well I have to disagree with the 7 wins. That means he hasn't lost the team and they upset either TAM or UM. There's not an AD in the country firing after going 7-5 with an 8-5 career record. He would have a 62% win percentage at that point in his short career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Mississippi has at least twice the NIL we do. They spent over 3 million on their last class/transfers. We are wayyyyyyy behind that
    We’re behind for sure, but not WAY behind.

    One of the more recent donations was $1.3M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    I?ll ask it this way:

    Is it because they feel he?s a solid head coach that will get better with some experience?

    Or

    They just don?t want the perception that MSU would fire a 6-6 coach even if he may not be the right guy?
    Little bit of both but more the second option, you just fired a guy with a career winning percentage at what is a lower P5 job. You just shrunk your pool of coaches being interested on your own.

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