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    Issue with a new or renovated baseball stadium

    A couple of things lately have increased my concern over what might possibly happen with a new stadium (especially) or a renovation of DNF. The main thing is that it will become the yellow pages.

    We are already seeing what we have to do to pay for a brick wall and a few stickers. While there are many other teams who have a lot more ads in their park, I always thought we were better than than. I could accept a few key ads by the scoreboard, but I didn't want the place looking like Talladega. I guess the question is are we going to be able to avoid it after a major project? I don't think we will. If it means the difference between bargain upgrades and the best college park in the nation, then I can deal with it. I just don't think I can accept naming the park after a sponsor.

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    It wont be because we need the money. I was told they can make a few calls and have the stadium paid for. That isnt even a concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar View Post
    It wont be because we need the money. I was told they can make a few calls and have the stadium paid for. That isnt even a concern.
    If that is the case, what are they waiting on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AROB44 View Post
    If that is the case, what are they waiting on?
    Ummm, maybe a design?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AROB44 View Post
    If that is the case, what are they waiting on?
    Still in the design phase. They aren't going to unveil it until they have a rough outline of how it will actually look -- and we don't yet have that, although there are numerous sketches and "prototypes" at this point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    Still in the design phase. They aren't going to unveil it until they have a rough outline of how it will actually look -- and we don't yet have that, although there are numerous sketches and "prototypes" at this point...
    They will unveil it this summer. I expect us to be in the new stadium 2.5 years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar View Post
    They will unveil it this summer. I expect us to be in the new stadium 2.5 years later.
    YI think your timetable may be a little ambitious... but hopefully that is correct and they are fast-tracking.

    Would be tremendous to unveil it at a June home regional if we take care of business and host...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogcountry1 View Post
    A couple of things lately have increased my concern over what might possibly happen with a new stadium (especially) or a renovation of DNF. The main thing is that it will become the yellow pages.

    We are already seeing what we have to do to pay for a brick wall and a few stickers. While there are many other teams who have a lot more ads in their park, I always thought we were better than than. I could accept a few key ads by the scoreboard, but I didn't want the place looking like Talladega. I guess the question is are we going to be able to avoid it after a major project? I don't think we will. If it means the difference between bargain upgrades and the best college park in the nation, then I can deal with it. I just don't think I can accept naming the park after a sponsor.
    I would have NO PROBLEM with a park named after a sponsor. It will always be Dudy Noble Field, even if it's Dudy Noble Field at Farm Bureau Park or Cadence Bank Stadium or Mississippi Department of Highway Safety/Bullock Toyota Baseballplex. (The latter would really be a mouthful, though Baseballplex is kind of a fun word).

    ETA: Assuming we get a hefty sum for the naming rights. Also, CSpire Park could be an option as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    YI think your timetable may be a little ambitious... but hopefully that is correct and they are fast-tracking.

    Would be tremendous to unveil it at a June home regional if we take care of business and host...
    I think Im right on the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar View Post
    It wont be because we need the money. I was told they can make a few calls and have the stadium paid for. That isnt even a concern.
    I don't know how much money we are talking about here, but I assume well over $30 mil. Are you telling me we can get that much money easily?

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    It wont be well over 30....and yes

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    If it won't be well over $30 -- that bodes poorly for the idea of building the best college baseball has ever seen... And also bodes poorly for the idea of a brand new, open concourse stadium...

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    Just let it play out engie

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    That's pretty difficult to do given the context of what you are saying -- when I've spent years painstakingly advocating for building the BEST -- every step I've advocated has been taken thusfar -- and we could be(according to your numbers) botching it at the final stages and coming up well short of that goal.

    Alex Box was about $34.5 million.
    Carolina Stadium was about $36 million.
    And we've seen some pretty significant inflation and higher building costs since then...

    Both were built on new sites -- so there is additional cost on the playing surface, parking, etc...but less cost on demolition of the existing structure, making it roughly a wash IMO...

    If we don't spend well north of $30 mil, there is very little chance that we build "the best stadium college baseball has ever seen". Just not feasible.

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    Trustmark Park: 28 mil
    Autozone Park: 80 mil
    Bluebell Park (renovation): 24 mil
    Alex Box: 38 mil

    If we build a new stadium for less than 30 mil, we will have a pile of garbage. We couldn't replicate DNF for 30 mil.
    Last edited by bulldogcountry1; 03-27-2014 at 09:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AROB44 View Post
    If that is the case, what are they waiting on?
    It took us 6 months to design a building for our church before we let anyone in the congregation see it. And this was a standard rectangle building with a few touches here and there. I'd imagine it's going to take a little longer for them to release the design of a brand new stadium for the Mecca of College Baseball.

    You cannot release it early or before you are pretty damn confident that what you are about to release is real close to the finished product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dickiedawg View Post
    I would have NO PROBLEM with a park named after a sponsor. It will always be Dudy Noble Field, even if it's Dudy Noble Field at Farm Bureau Park or Cadence Bank Stadium or Mississippi Department of Highway Safety/Bullock Toyota Baseballplex.
    PLUS Ron Polk finally gets his wish of having his name removed from the stadium! Everybody wins!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Original48 View Post
    PLUS Ron Polk finally gets his wish of having his name removed from the stadium! Everybody wins!!!
    Unless it's "Polk Meat Products Park".

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    I think it would be a good thing to re-brand the stadium. Get rid of DNF, Polk-Dement and all such names thereby getting rid of lifetime seating contracts. I'd like to completely rebuild but at least I hope we do enough construction that we can just call it an entirely different stadium...even if that means a corporate sponsored name on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Croom Diaries View Post
    I think it would be a good thing to re-brand the stadium. Get rid of DNF, Polk-Dement and all such names thereby getting rid of lifetime seating contracts. I'd like to completely rebuild but at least I hope we do enough construction that we can just call it an entirely different stadium...even if that means a corporate sponsored name on it.
    I dont mind re-naming the stadium but you dont change the name of the field. DNF is the most historic field in college baseball. Change the name of the stadium.

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