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    Sunday Morning QB- Just Cant Give Them The D Edition

    1. What a lovely Fall day yesterday. Perfect temp for football and grilling. Have a Mississippi Rebel friend staying the weekend and treated her to some filet and lobster. She also got treated to a fun day of Bulldog football watching us get our 3rd win of the season to even our record at 3-3. Unfortunately, I had to watch Mississippi eek out a hard fought win with someone yelling at the TV constantly.

    2. Offensively, we got about what was expected. 41 points which could have easily been more. Missed a FG, fumbled a KO return before half with great field position, and just ran the clock inside the 10 at the end of the game. The offense did its job even with people hurt or hurting. 440 yards for you yards loving Bulldogs out there. No sacks of our QB. We were down a RB and then Marks sat the 2nd half- yet still ran for 6 ypc in the game. Just a good offensive performance and this side of the ball continues to get better. Could have easily put up 50 yesterday. Reallyyyyyy enjoying this offense. Wish the QB play was a little better but recruiting is the only way to get better there.

    3. QB play was solid. 3 TD's passes with no picks. We could have thrown for more but you could us working on some things offensively. Rogers threw a really good backshoulder early on but their DB made a good play on it to force us into a FG. Absolutely dumb bringing in Wright on 3rd and Goal in a long situation but this was a game to try things. Good to see Wright get some drives and work. That damn floating duck he threw across the field to start off had to be the ball slipping or something. Ended up 7/10 and a good outing. He put the ball in a tight window that should have been caught around the goalline by Tulu I think. Hopefully Rogers is not too bad off and its also a positive that its his other shoulder. Perfect time for an off week.

    4. Defensively, we are running Arnett's defense. This is not Brock's. We arent doing anything defensively we havent done the last 3 seasons.

    5. D-Line is not very good at staying healthy or getting pressure. They just cant. We simply lack talent there. They hold their own ok vs the run. They dont get manhandled or anything. However, you have got to have guys that can get to the QB and we dont have that. Injuries just making it worse. We have 2 weeks to figure something vs UPig.

    6. LB's are the best part of our D but they are slow. Not bringing anything new to light here. It is what it is. having to blitz at least one of them every play hurts us in coverage. We are seeing that frequently. And sometimes they are just too slow to get there. Being smart veteran football players helps hide their lack of speed at times thank goodness.

    7. Worse group of DB's I've seen in awhile. This group is awful. 4 is supposed to be our best CB and he couldnt start anywhere else in the SEC besidess Vandy maybe. We lack talent here. That's the bottom line. Not getting any pressure from the DL makes us unable to mask any deficiencies this group has.

    8. Bottom line- the offense is playing some solid ball now and the D is what makes this team so bad. We are already 6 PPG worse than last year defensively and that number likely grows with the teams left on the schedule. Leach gets some blame for our lack of talent on D but the main culprit is Arnett and NIL. Really needed a Wheat type from the portal and didnt get that. We certainly have missed in recruiting and the portal in the Secondary.

    9. UPig has lost 4 games in a row and play Bama next. Kentucky got exposed yesterday. Auburn was off but goes to Baton Rouge and then plays Mississippi before us. Really big 3 games coming up for us. Got to find a way to win a couple. Defense will be the key.

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    Agree. You nailed it

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    This is the least excited I've been about Mississippi State football since 2008. Just nothing to be excited about right now

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    We scored what WMU has been allowing all season. Nothing to brag about at all. They are ranked 106th in the nation.
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    And 127th in scoring Defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    We scored what WMU has been allowing all season. Nothing to brag about at all. They are ranked 106th in the nation.
    Exactly. Offense did it’s job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Exactly. Offense did it’s job
    No the OC did not do his job. We are in the SEC they are a friggin MAC team. That game should have been over in the first half. You let the starting QB win it and sub in, not play around with your food like we are a cat toying with a mouse!

    If this was TAMU struggling with a MAC, you would be honest. But it's your bestie....

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    If we are going to continue to blitz with slow LBs then it should be straight line blitz and quit trying to X blitz or loop blitzs because we are getting no pressure that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    No the OC did not do his job. We are in the SEC they are a friggin MAC team. That game should have been over in the first half. You let the starting QB win it and sub in, not play around with your food like we are a cat toying with a mouse!

    If this was TAMU struggling with a MAC, you would be honest. But it's your bestie....
    Offense did its job. Giving up 28 points and allowing them to run 77 plays on offense was the problem to anybody that is being honest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Exactly. Offense did it?s job
    It was against WMU for goodness sake! Coach, you have Genespage, maroon colored glasses on this season. I seen it all since first game in person in 1963, age 8, and this was Shira, Felker, Croom, JoMo bad. Did they happen to show the "crowd" on TV? I was there to the boring end and got sunburned to boot.*** They also scored 28 on us with their 3rd string QB. Our "program" is in big trouble again. Didn't think I would ever see us this bad again (55 year season ticket holder and Bulldog Club member).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Offense did its job. Giving up 28 points and allowing them to run 77 plays on offense was the problem to anybody that is being honest
    No the OC did not do his job. And if he does this in SEC play, we will struggle to win a game.

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    The first offensive series with Wright was the most painful and brutally boring thing I've watched from us since 2019, maybe 2008. (And that's against a team like Western Michigan! Imagine it against a SEC defense!)

    If we can win using it, then I'll get over it, but just as far as how "fun" it is to be a Mississippi State fan, the Leach era was amazing and the Arnett era is a bust.

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    This team has a 1000 problems and y'all keep focusing on the offense which is problem 379. The defense is by far the biggest issue. It's not freaking close right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    This team has a 1000 problems and y'all keep focusing on the offense which is problem 379. The defense is by far the biggest issue. It's not freaking close right now.
    My negative comments on Arnett changing the offense was that he wasted a ton of time and focus on all that, hiring new coaches on the offense, a new OC, etc .....when he knew darn well he better get that defense all sorted out in the off season with some urgency.
    That has been my issue with it, and that really the coaches on offense deserved an opportunity to stay at MSU for this season if they wanted, due to the circumstances just as much as Arnett did.
    Also our administration for making the decision on Arnett (Because Cohen wanted him at Auburn as DC or something). Somehow our administration decided the worst thing about our team was the offense, and Arnett got the HC job for it.
    Last edited by Santiago; 10-08-2023 at 12:00 PM.

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    We have made every team's QB look like a Heisman finalist, and they have their best QBRs against us.
    Kentucky QB, Ole Miss QB, and Arkansas QB will look good against us. Aggie QB will destroy us like a video game offense. That is just going by analytics of this season.


    I am not buying into any Sunday morning Cheerleading from the same guy the past three years every Sunday ripped apart the coaches with negativity and pushing the agenda to change.
    Last edited by Santiago; 10-08-2023 at 11:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    This team has a 1000 problems and y'all keep focusing on the offense which is problem 379. The defense is by far the biggest issue. It's not freaking close right now.
    The defense is a problem. The offense did not have to be a problem. People are pissed at what happened behind closed doors and the fact that we were lied to and the players too. This team is lost and it's due to the staff being lost.

    Sure the defense sucks. Look who is running it and why did Arnett suck a recruiting for it? No way around it where we are right now is due to this staff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    440 yards for you yards loving Bulldogs out there.
    I get that you're just trolling, but 440 is not a great performance against a bad MAC defense.

    However, the offense was much, much better than the defense yesterday, so I don't want to pile on too hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    This team has a 1000 problems and y'all keep focusing on the offense which is problem 379. The defense is by far the biggest issue. It's not freaking close right now.
    They are pointing it out because Coach34 keeps talking about how good the offense is doing. It sucks. Just not as bad as the defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    We have made every team's QB look like a Heisman finalist, and they have their best QBRs against us.
    Kentucky QB, Ole Miss QB, and Arkansas QB will look good against us. Aggie QB will destroy us like a video game offense. That is just going by analytics of this season.


    I am not buying into any Sunday morning Cheerleading from the same guy the past three years every Sunday ripped apart the coaches with negativity and pushing the agenda to change.
    We allowed the 3rd string guy at friggin WMU the highest QBR of ANY QB on their team had all SEASON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    They are pointing it out because Coach34 keeps talking about how good the offense is doing. It sucks. Just not as bad as the defense.
    this for sure, and also those similar to Coach 34's thoughts on the offense for the past 3 years, ridiculing Leach, to me is indicative of the thinking in the Bryan building also.
    They got their wish to change offense, at the expense of promoting the guy that has our defense over the past 4 seasons to HC.
    Congratulations to those good ole boys. Getting what you deserve.

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