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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    There's no guarantee Kittley or Riley would pan out either. Upside? Bruh, Petrino has been the head coach of P5 teams. Right now, that's an upside.
    Nope. That's a floor with a low ceiling. We need a coach that is young. Preferably in his 30s. We need a coach that is offensive minded. We need a coach that is innovative in what he does. We need a coach that understands and embraces analytics. We will not get that with any retread. Heck, we won't get that with most G5 head coaches that would take the job. The one G5 head coach I would go for is Kinne.

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    Malzahn would be a good hire. Ask Auburn if they regret it

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Malzahn would be a good hire. Ask Auburn if they regret it
    Gus is interesting. He has won big at Auburn and would definitely embrace the portal. There is also the fact that his offense would be perfect for Mike Wright or Parson. We also know he is not afraid of Saban. He also would bring an offense that is a hell of a lot more exciting than what we currently have.

    The negatives are the unknown if he has lost a step in being at UCF. Also, he is a little too chummy with Sean and Leigh Anne Tuohy for my liking. We would need to quell that, or at least be a bit more covert with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    Bottom line on all of this. He beats Arkansas in two weeks, he is not getting fired, barring a 2008 egg bowl performance, which there is zero indication of happening.

    If we are 4-3 headed into the last 5 games, we have a good shot at being bowl-eligible.
    Don't fret... he isn't beating Arkansas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Nope. That's a floor with a low ceiling. We need a coach that is young. Preferably in his 30s. We need a coach that is offensive minded. We need a coach that is innovative in what he does. We need a coach that understands and embraces analytics. We will not get that with any retread. Heck, we won't get that with most G5 head coaches that would take the job. The one G5 head coach I would go for is Kinne.
    Fortunately, I think Selmon understands that..

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    So we hire him on the premise of continuity and we'll keep him if he goes 5-7?!!?

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    If the decision is made to replace Arnett, you got out and get a P5 coach like we did with Leach.

    This isn't MSU of old. We don't hire coordinators like we used to. You go for the guy who does more with less talent than is peers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memsu06 View Post
    If the decision is made to replace Arnett, you got out and get a P5 coach like we did with Leach.

    This isn't MSU of old. We don't hire coordinators like we used to. You go for the guy who does more with less talent than is peers.
    Who is realistic in scenario? That is an extremely extremely small pool of realistic candidates

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    So we hire him on the premise of continuity and we'll keep him if he goes 5-7?!!?
    At this point 5-7 is just as bad as 4-8. We beat one SEC team that is just as bad as us. Whoopee!

    Quote Originally Posted by memsu06 View Post
    If the decision is made to replace Arnett, you got out and get a P5 coach like we did with Leach.

    This isn't MSU of old. We don't hire coordinators like we used to. You go for the guy who does more with less talent than is peers.
    If the lever is pulled we have to have a national search with a genuine search committee. Selmon has to do his due diligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memsu06 View Post
    If the decision is made to replace Arnett, you got out and get a P5 coach like we did with Leach.

    This isn't MSU of old. We don't hire coordinators like we used to. You go for the guy who does more with less talent than is peers.
    Getting Mike Leach was a once in a lifetime move. We were very fortunate that he was interested. Considering that Cohen?s first choice was Joe Judge, there is no telling where that search would have gone if Jared Benko hadn?t reached out to Mike. There was a big push for Todd Grantham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Getting Mike Leach was a once in a lifetime move. We were very fortunate that he was interested. Considering that Cohen?s first choice was Joe Judge, there is no telling where that search would have gone if Jared Benko hadn?t reached out to Mike. There was a big push for Todd Grantham.
    I do agree with it being a long shot getting a P5, Leach was wanting that crack at the SEC and open to the move. Very few will be.

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    Best chance would be trying to convince Jake Dickert at Wazzu or Jonathan Smith at Oregon State to make the jump due to their current situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Best chance would be trying to convince Jake Dickert at Wazzu or Jonathan Smith at Oregon State to make the jump due to their current situations.
    I'd take Jonathan Smith in a heartbeat. What he's done at Oregon State is pretty impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Best chance would be trying to convince Jake Dickert at Wazzu or Jonathan Smith at Oregon State to make the jump due to their current situations.
    Those two, Malzahn, and maybe Dana Holgerson are 4 examples of a current P5 head coach we could realistically get.

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    Whatever we do, we need to stick with transitioning to the more common ground-based, mobile QB, spread option type offense. We don't need to go back to an AR concept. We're half way through this transition, it'd be stupid to go back at this point. There's one Mike Leach, there's tons of Dan and Gus's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    Whatever we do, we need to stick with transitioning to the more common ground-based, mobile QB, spread option type offense. We don't need to go back to an AR concept. We're half way through this transition, it'd be stupid to go back at this point. There's one Mike Leach, there's tons of Dan and Gus's.
    Gag! Barf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Those two, Malzahn, and maybe Dana Holgerson are 4 examples of a current P5 head coach we could realistically get.
    Hard and I mean hard pass on Holgerson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Hard and I mean hard pass on Holgerson.
    Dana would have been a great hire in 2017.

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    Don't know why more of you aren't naming Clawson from Wake. If the dude can win there, he can win here. He'd be a big upgrade.
    It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22


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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Don't know why more of you aren't naming Clawson from Wake. If the dude can win there, he can win here. He'd be a big upgrade.
    But would MSU be an upgrade from Wake for Clawson. My 8 ball says highly doubtful at this time.

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