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    Just a Hypothetical Scenario

    So lets just go with a hypothetical and say this season goes off the rails, I for one think 7 wins is still very much possible with our remaining schedule, but for the sake of conversation lets just say we do not figure this out and 4-8 or 5-7 is the record at the end of the season. It is obvious that Andy Staples was not just posting the Arnett buyout for nothing he was fed it by someone. So lets say we move on from CZA after one season. Who should we go after?

    A) An up and coming OC like Kittley at TTU

    B) A G5 HC like Charles Huff or Sean Lewis, yes I know Lewis is OC now but he was HC at Kent

    C) Retread P5 HC like Malzahn, Herman, Mullen, etc

    D) Lay our sack on the table and shoot for a sitting P5 HC. Someone like Dykes, Gundy, Leipold, Locksley, etc.

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    A... maybe B. No chance on D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    A... maybe B. No chance on D.
    I lean that way too. Although, if we were to ever swing for the fences this is the time to do it. The buyout that Bracky and Keenum put in place make it possible.

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    B, D, A, C
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I lean that way too. Although, if we were to ever swing for the fences this is the time to do it. The buyout that Bracky and Keenum put in place make it possible.
    You can swing..... it will be a miss...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    So lets just go with a hypothetical and say this season goes off the rails, I for one think 7 wins is still very much possible with our remaining schedule, but for the sake of conversation lets just say we do not figure this out and 4-8 or 5-7 is the record at the end of the season. It is obvious that Andy Staples was not just posting the Arnett buyout for nothing he was fed it by someone. So lets say we move on from CZA after one season. Who should we go after?

    A) An up and coming OC like Kittley at TTU

    B) A G5 HC like Charles Huff or Sean Lewis, yes I know Lewis is OC now but he was HC at Kent

    C) Retread P5 HC like Malzahn, Herman, Mullen, etc

    D) Lay our sack on the table and shoot for a sitting P5 HC. Someone like Dykes, Gundy, Leipold, Locksley, etc.
    I would want A but not Kittley. We would be trading one Zach for another and younger as well. Also, at least from this article, his job as OC may be in jeopardy.

    https://wreckemred.com/2023/09/24/te...-zach-kittley/

    I would agree however that I would prefer a coach with offense as his background.

    A would be first option for me then D followed by C and B.
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    I don't mind swinging for the fence even if we miss and then end up with a proven G5 coach.

    I wonder if Selmon will go after Shane Beamer at South Carolina? They're pretty close and I'm sure his wife would like to be close to home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I don't mind swinging for the fence even if we miss and then end up with a proven G5 coach.

    I wonder if Selmon will go after Shane Beamer at South Carolina? They're pretty close and I'm sure his wife would like to be close to home.
    I’m fine with pulling a good P5 find someone though that runs the ORGANIZATION not just the team well. But I do not want Beamer

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    I can?t imagine Beamer coming here unless the alum there are not supporting him.

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    Probably A unless there is an up and coming rising star head coach who is offensive minded and up to date with analytics.

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    Can't take a chance with this hire. Have to get an experienced HC who is a good recruiter and understands the portal.

    Does Selmon have a connection with Bob Stoops? That'd be my first call. Urban would be my second. Both will probably turn us down. Next on the list would be Gus and Petrino. HC experience at a high level would certainly be a plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I don't mind swinging for the fence even if we miss and then end up with a proven G5 coach.

    I wonder if Selmon will go after Shane Beamer at South Carolina? They're pretty close and I'm sure his wife would like to be close to home.
    Beamer seems to have gotten the big head and arrogant at USCe after their successful season last year and this year could end up being meh. Break out the $ bags and try for a nationaslly known, experienced, older coach. OM did it with Lane. Why can't we? JMO

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    Mullen and Malzahn are the floor, but if we can get someone we like better than those, cool. If we can't, we know those guys can win in the SEC at much more consistent level than Croom/Moorhead/Arnett, so it would be an improvement.

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    This is a good thread. Selmon is definitely gonna have to go Greg Byrne and make his own name in this hire.
    I do hope Arnett figures it out this year, as much as I griped this week. It is good for MSU, and the guy is swimming.

    That Colorado OC is really good. We do need a proven commodity for sure though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    You can swing..... it will be a miss...
    No. It won’t. It may not be our first choice but I guaran-damn-tee you some P5 coaches would be interested in the HC position at MSU.

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    We were ready to give Mullen 7 million to stay six years ago. If he had stayed and had never received another raise he would still be the 20th highest paid coach in college football. I guarantee you we could pull a good sitting P5 coach if we really wanted him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    Can't take a chance with this hire. Have to get an experienced HC who is a good recruiter and understands the portal.

    Does Selmon have a connection with Bob Stoops? That'd be my first call. Urban would be my second. Both will probably turn us down. Next on the list would be Gus and Petrino. HC experience at a high level would certainly be a plus.
    My issue with getting coaches that haven’t coached during the transition or in the portal/NIL/kids run the school yard college football right now is are those coaching going to be playing catch up or are they going to be able to hit the ground running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    This is a good thread. Selmon is definitely gonna have to go Greg Byrne and make his own name in this hire.
    I do hope Arnett figures it out this year, as much as I griped this week. It is good for MSU, and the guy is swimming.

    That Colorado OC is really good. We do need a proven commodity for sure though.
    That a really good thought. He was a head coach before going to Colorado, also Deion being there could help us as Deion can give him the lay of the land of Mississippi. I also love the swagger side of Deion and if some do that rubs off on the coaches I’m not mad at it. And when I say swagger I mean “I am walking into the room and I’m going to own it.” Our team could use some of that.

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    Well none of this matters per Rosey. Per his several sources, Arnett will be retained and He has hired Jimmy Sexton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    Well none of this matters per Rosey. Per his several sources, Arnett will be retained and He has hired Jimmy Sexton.
    He also reported Moorhead was safe the morning of the Music City. I mean Rosey is always right.

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