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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Arizona was 6 inches from a first down. Not tying the game, much less winning. We should have not been in that position but that's not true to say we were 6 inches from losing.
    They were inside the 30 yard line. It?s a pretty safe bet we lose that game if they get the first down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    They were inside the 30 yard line. It?s a pretty safe bet we lose that game if they get the first down there.
    Of course they were inside the 30, it was overtime. But it wasn't a stop at the goal line. He could have also thrown another interception, his 6th of the game. Or we stop them from scoring even if they had got that first down. Or they score but miss the extra point to tie, not win but tie, and still lose. Or miss the 2 pt for conversion to win. Its fallacy that the stop on 4th down was 6 inches from losing, it was only for first down. It's just not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    Not really. We are 6 inches from having won 1 game. 1.

    This staff has taken a 9 win Vet team allowing 1 sack per 24 attempts to a team that is lost and allowing 1 sack in every 10 attempts. A defense that is lost and soft... And they did it in record time.
    C34 could spin that and say we're one possession from being 3-2. But I won't defend our results so far.

    But citing sack rate for this offense be the AR would be like C34 citing that we run the ball better out of this offense. No duh. This offense runs the ball better and the AR doesn't get sacked because there is minimal to no pressure and you throw 6 yard passes a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    It's a message board.

    You know what's really not good for recruiting? The shit show we have going on right now.
    You're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Doing coaching searches for recruits to see and OM to point out to recruits isn't helpful. If ZA has a losing record and continues yo be horrible, fire him after the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Arizona was 6 inches from a first down. Not tying the game, much less winning. We should have not been in that position but that's not true to say we were 6 inches from losing.
    What this boils down to is making excuses for what this staff has not done. You want to play Devil's advocate. But everything from the mouths of the coaching staff is presenting the exact same message as we are saying.

    That's from the HC down to the the OL coach that says they don;t know who they are suppose to be blocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    You're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Doing coaching searches for recruits to see and OM to point out to recruits isn't helpful. If ZA has a losing record and continues yo be horrible, fire him after the season.
    Recruits don’t care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    C34 could spin that and say we're one possession from being 3-2. But I won't defend our results so far.

    But citing sack rate for this offense be the AR would be like C34 citing that we run the ball better out of this offense. No duh. This offense runs the ball better and the AR doesn't get sacked because there is minimal to no pressure and you throw 6 yard passes a lot.
    You are making my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    You're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Doing coaching searches for recruits to see and OM to point out to recruits isn't helpful. If ZA has a losing record and continues yo be horrible, fire him after the season.
    Recruits care more about their NIL than what is said here. There is no problem or solution on this board.

    When you have nationally recognized SEC guys coming on local radio, as happened today, saying we need to push the panic button b/c Arnett is obviously in over his head then it's way past this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    You mean 1) terrible on field performance and loss of the fan base, 2) boosters willing the pay the buyout, and 3) A AD who pussies out because he's not man enough to do his job?

    If that's what you meant, I agree it seems likely.
    Slow clap!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachT14 View Post
    Outside of Will and friends, the kids don’t give a damn what is said on a message board.

    Our shitshow of a coaching staff is 10x more detrimental than a message board to recruiting.

    The fact that you’re arguing that just because we are 2-3 “like everyone predicted” and ignoring what lead to that record tells me all I need to know. Some folks just want to ignore reality until it smacks them right in the face.
    You obviously haven't read my posts on the last several threads. But carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    What this boils down to is making excuses for what this staff has not done. You want to play Devil's advocate. But everything from the mouths of the coaching staff is presenting the exact same message as we are saying.

    That's from the HC down to the the OL coach that says they don;t know who they are suppose to be blocking.
    What you just wrote has nothing to do with you trying to push that we were 6" from a loss. You are just making up a situation in which a possible first down, not even a score, by a team behind a TD some how equals them scoring and winning the game on that play. It's a falsehood agenda you are trying to push to make a bad start to the season...bad??? Its already bad, you don't make up a situation to make it bad.

    The staff has done poor and I've said that many times. The players have not executed. That's on them as well. Including our QB and all the players. But 6 inches away from a loss...that's just not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Of course they were inside the 30, it was overtime. But it wasn't a stop at the goal line. He could have also thrown another interception, his 6th of the game. Or we stop them from scoring even if they had got that first down. Or they score but miss the extra point to tie, not win but tie, and still lose. Or miss the 2 pt for conversion to win. Its fallacy that the stop on 4th down was 6 inches from losing, it was only for first down. It's just not true.
    It wasn?t overtime yet it was very late in the 4th quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    It wasn?t overtime yet it was very late in the 4th quarter.
    What are you smoking? You talking the 3rd down and 1 when we dropped him for a loss and kicked a FG to tie?? How is a 1 yard loss making it 4th and 2 the same as 6 inches from a loss? They were 20 yards away not 6 inches from the goal line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachT14 View Post
    Recruits don?t care.
    I can tell you first hand that's not true.
    Not saying it matters more than anything else though.
    Last edited by confucius say; 10-04-2023 at 08:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    What are you smoking? You talking the 3rd down and 1 when we dropped him for a loss and kicked a FG to tie?? How is a 1 yard loss making it 4th and 2 the same as 6 inches from a loss? They were 20 yards away not 6 inches from the goal line.
    It was in OT because it was after Pittman scored the TD. However, everyone in that stadium and watching on TV knew that if they hadn't reversed the call AZ would have tied it then with very high probability would have won it in 2nd OT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activated Alpha View Post
    It was in OT because it was after Pittman scored the TD. However, everyone in that stadium and watching on TV knew that if they hadn't reversed the call AZ would have tied it then with very high probability would have won it in 2nd OT
    He clearly stated it wasn't in OT, it was late in the 4th. That's why I posted what I did and honestly wasn't even sure what he was alluding to. That was the only play I could think of late in 4th.

    Everybody in the stands and at home clearly knew he was short. I can't remember but thought they called him short and they confirmed it on review, not reversed it. May be wrong.

    And no matter what we think might have happened, it wasn't that we were 6 inches away from a loss. A first down at the 15 is not the same as stopping a team at the goal on 4th and that score wins it. Not the same and it's just dishonest to say it was. Mullen was a yard away from beating LSU his first year, that play would be a true statement. A possible first down at the 15 is not 6 inches from a loss. He was just as likely to throw another INT like he had all night and had just done 2 series before in the 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activated Alpha View Post
    It was in OT because it was after Pittman scored the TD. However, everyone in that stadium and watching on TV knew that if they hadn't reversed the call AZ would have tied it then with very high probability would have won it in 2nd OT
    High probability???? Even though they were behind by 7?? Not sure where your math degree comes from but......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    I can't think of a hire that really blows my skirt up. I really don't want a coordinator who's learning to take his training wheels off while in the SEC. But, there aren't many established HC's that are realistic candidates either. I also don't particularly want a retread, I'd rather have a new guy than that. I'd probably land somewhere along the lines of a G5 HC that is trending upward.
    My Rolodex of coaching candidates isn't that deep I guess.
    How about Kline from Kansas State?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    High probability???? Even though they were behind by 7?? Not sure where your math degree comes from but......
    It's a stupid agenda talking point that's popped up all of sudden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    It's a stupid agenda talking point that's popped up all of sudden.
    I swear we have people that would be happier if we lost se their agendas would be met. Holy hell

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