Being reported that Clemson has a tentative agreement for an exit plan from ACC

[preachermatt83]

Just have 4 mega conferences and take the top 4 from each one to go to a 16 team playoff. It’s a beautiful thought

[BulldogBear]

This is such an odd play. It has to be the B1G. They bring nothing of real value to the SEC. It's another mouth to feed in a small market. Maybe you're thinking Charleston and Columbia. Then I would present to you the state of Missouri with Kansas City and St. Louis. Why would the SEC want "Missouri Tech" when it already has the market. Oh, but "Missouri Tech" is a big name.

Is Clemson a big name? In the last half decade or so. Yeah. Historically? No bigger than Arkansas. They haven't done anything Auburn hasn't done. Be honest, if Auburn wasn't already in the SEC would they be getting an invite? Not in any universe.

Clemson is also trending downward towards once again being just another Auburn or Arkansas. There is too small of a sample size to assume they are a perrinial top 10 that any duplicate market SEC addition would need to be.

If this is true, it a very dumb, short sighted move by the SEC and smacks of desperation. Taking Clemson would be an admission that the B1G has passed the SEC in prestige.

[parabrave]

This is such an odd play. It has to be the B1G. They bring nothing of real value to the SEC. It's another mouth to feed in a small market. Maybe you're thinking Charleston and Columbia. Then I would present to you the state of Missouri with Kansas City and St. Louis. Why would the SEC want "Missouri Tech" when it already has the market. Oh, but "Missouri Tech" is a big name.

Is Clemson a big name? In the last half decade or so. Yeah. Historically? No bigger than Arkansas. They haven't done anything Auburn hasn't done. Be honest, if Auburn wasn't already in the SEC would they be getting an invite? Not in any universe.

Clemson is also trending downward towards once again being just another Auburn or Arkansas. There is too small of a sample size to assume they are a perrinial top 10 that any duplicate market SEC addition would need to be.

If this is true, it a very dumb, short sighted move by the SEC and smacks of desperation. Taking Clemson would be an admission that the B1G has passed the SEC in prestige.

I used to live there/ Believe me when I tell you that UGA has more Grads and support in that area. Clemson is a poor mans Auburn. Used to see a few MSU Grads in banking up there also.

[Really Clark?]

If it becomes a package deal to get North Carolina, I take Clemson everyday and twice on Sunday. I also want to close the door of any of the more premium name teams in my footprint going to the B10.

[SpaceBully]

that?s not how it works any longer - it?s a new world of clicks and steaming. the sec will take fsu clem certainly. the other 2 are ideally uva and unc

Those who watch on tv is proportional to those who stream. So, number of tvs can tell you who will be streaming or clicking pretty closely.

[R2Dawg]

Saturday was one of the best College Football days in years. I watched a ton of games, nostalgia had absolutely nothing to do with it. Good teams, good games, good storylines. Nostalgia is vastly overrated.

Nostalgia may be the wrong word but all these moves are killing college sports. Next year we don't even play Bama, Aub or LSU. The history of these games is what makes the SEC and college sports so good.

Yes I know Bama and LSU have had our #. Aub we been fairly even for 30 years. It is not about who won. Heck just do away with the iron bowl, egg bowl and all the rest why not. All about the deals they can make.

[CaptainObvious]

Nostalgia may be the wrong word but all these moves are killing college sports. Next year we don't even play Bama, Aub or LSU. The history of these games is what makes the SEC and college sports so good.

Yes I know Bama and LSU have had our #. Aub we been fairly even for 30 years. It is not about who won. Heck just do away with the iron bowl, egg bowl and all the rest why not. All about the deals they can make.

I?m sure the SEC office will find other teams for you to watch bash our brains in. When LSU and Bama hire another Stovall and Shula, I?ll be ready to watch us actually compete with them year in and year out again. Until then let?s try a couple of new teams.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I really don?t understand why people would not want Clemson to join the SEC but would want UNC. Clemson has been the best team in the ACC over the past 10 years. Florida State is good this year, but State and Ole Miss have been better than FSU over the past 10 years. UNC has not even been the best team in North Carolina in football over the past 5 years or so. That honor goes to Wake Forest. If the SEC expands to 20, I would take Clemson first over any of the remaining teams and it?s not even close. Next I would take FSU by default, but I would take Oklahoma State, Miami, and VA Tech over UNC.

[parabrave]

I really don?t understand why people would not want Clemson to join the SEC but would want UNC. Clemson has been the best team in the ACC over the past 10 years. Florida State is good this year, but State and Ole Miss have been better than FSU over the past 10 years. UNC has not even been the best team in North Carolina in football over the past 5 years or so. That honor goes to Wake Forest. If the SEC expands to 20, I would take Clemson first over any of the remaining teams and it?s not even close. Next I would take FSU by default, but I would take Oklahoma State, Miami, and VA Tech over UNC.

it's not how good teams are but TV Markets.

[BrunswickDawg]

Nostalgia may be the wrong word but all these moves are killing college sports. Next year we don't even play Bama, Aub or LSU. The history of these games is what makes the SEC and college sports so good.

Yes I know Bama and LSU have had our #. Aub we been fairly even for 30 years. It is not about who won. Heck just do away with the iron bowl, egg bowl and all the rest why not. All about the deals they can make.

Good! We were put down by the SEC for far too long for us not to start finally reaping some benefit. For 40 plus years we played schedules no other SEC school had to deal with. We played LSU in Louisiana every year from 1931 to 1957. From 1931 to 1973 we only played LSU outside of Louisiana 4 times. That's 38 away games in 42 seasons. From 1932 to 1973 we played Alabama in Alabama 31 times in 41 games. Meanwhile, our in-state rival gets to play Vandy every year and went 3 decades without playing Bama.

Yeah, part of that is on our Administration for rolling over taking it - but I could go 20 years not playing Bama and LSU and feel just fine about MSU.

[basedog]

Good! We were put down by the SEC for far too long for us not to start finally reaping some benefit. For 40 plus years we played schedules no other SEC school had to deal with. We played LSU in Louisiana every year from 1931 to 1957. From 1931 to 1973 we only played LSU outside of Louisiana 4 times. That's 38 away games in 42 seasons. From 1932 to 1973 we played Alabama in Alabama 31 times in 41 games. Meanwhile, our in-state rival gets to play Vandy every year and went 3 decades without playing Bama.

Yeah, part of that is on our Administration for rolling over taking it - but I could go 20 years not playing Bama and LSU and feel just fine about MSU.

Make this happen Bruins! LOL

[PGHBulldogBG]

it's not how good teams are but TV Markets.

UNC has a lot of sidewalk basketball fans so their market is probably fairly big. Not sure their numbers for football though because most of those UNC ?fans? are ?fans? of other teams in football.

[viverlibre]

Nostalgia may be the wrong word but all these moves are killing college sports. Next year we don't even play Bama, Aub or LSU. The history of these games is what makes the SEC and college sports so good.

Yes I know Bama and LSU have had our #. Aub we been fairly even for 30 years. It is not about who won. Heck just do away with the iron bowl, egg bowl and all the rest why not. All about the deals they can make.

If you're actually wanting to play LSU and Bama, you're a sadist, but aren't we all as voluntary State fans

I, for one, am happy not to play them. Bama will have us back on their schedule soon enough.

I'd be happy to permanently replace Bama and LSU with Misery and Vandy.

[viverlibre]

I found this, no idea it is it accurate or not. Clempson and FSU are high on the list.


College Football viewership by team in the 2022 season. The data is based on views per week:

Team Viewers (in million)
Ohio State 5.80
Alabama 5.11
Michigan 4.37
Tennessee 4.13
Georgia 3.50
N Dame 3.30
LSU 3.22
Texas 3.06
Penn St 3.05
Clemson 2.59
Florida 2.57
Oregon 2.21
TCU 2.20
USC 2.07
FSU 2.03
Nebraska 1.98
Michigan S 1.91
Texas A&M 1.87
Maryland 1.864
Auburn 1.863

[BulldogBear]

I found this, no idea it is it accurate or not. Clempson and FSU are high on the list.


College Football viewership by team in the 2022 season. The data is based on views per week:

Team Viewers (in million)
Ohio State 5.80
Alabama 5.11
Michigan 4.37
Tennessee 4.13
Georgia 3.50
N Dame 3.30
LSU 3.22
Texas 3.06
Penn St 3.05
Clemson 2.59
Florida 2.57
Oregon 2.21
TCU 2.20
USC 2.07
FSU 2.03
Nebraska 1.98
Michigan S 1.91
Texas A&M 1.87
Maryland 1.864
Auburn 1.863

I'd like to see where Clemson ranks from 1992-2021 Won't even be on that list unless it's 1 or 2 places from the bottom. And that counts the last 5 years.

[Lord McBuckethead]

And create better conference schedules.

[parabrave]

That has TCU and Clemson which are two regional fanbase schools ahead of USCw and FSU. Who did that survey Danny Ford and Bob Lilly?

[viverlibre]

TCU had their best season ever in 2022 with an exciting QB. Clempson's been a thing for a while. Michigan State and Maryland are also surprising.